Jadeite
Open Gaming Enthusiast
When Keith Baker, the original creator of Eberron, ponders about leaving the setting because he's not happy with the terms of DMGuild, I have little need for DMGuild, either.
It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.
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Faolyn
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Did he? I thought he just wasn't happy about the OGL situation? I didn't know it was about the DM's Guild itself.
Jadeite
Open Gaming Enthusiast
Keith Baker asks about walking away from Eberron.
I NEVER thought I'd see this. I’m facing a difficult decision, and I’d like to get your opinion on it. I love Eberron. There are many corners of the setting I've yet to explore and many details I’ve imagined that I’ve yet to share. But the simple fact is that it’s not mine. Eberron is wholly...
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Faolyn
(she/her)
Yeah, I read that one. It seems to indicate that's he's unhappy with WotC, in part because he's limited to selling it on the DM's Guild, not that the site itself is causing problems.Keith Baker asks about walking away from Eberron.
I NEVER thought I'd see this. I’m facing a difficult decision, and I’d like to get your opinion on it. I love Eberron. There are many corners of the setting I've yet to explore and many details I’ve imagined that I’ve yet to share. But the simple fact is that it’s not mine. Eberron is wholly...
mamba
Hero
I take this as him being unhappy to share so much of the profit and how working with a setting that is technically not his limits what he can do with it, not the terms per se (other than the share %).
UngeheuerLich
Legend
What is VRGtRL?
Volo's Real Guide to Real Life?
Ah.
Van Richten's Guide to Raven Loft...
Those abbreviations are making me fuzzy...
Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
MHSTtMTaO(My Head Spins Trying to Make Them all Out).
ThorinTeague
Creative/Father/Professor
Am I correct in "remembering" that that's the guy who won that contest in 2000 when WoTC put out the call for campaign worlds? With the winner getting their world published.
The Origins of Eberron: Bill Slavicsek
Mickey Redblade was sharpening a dagger when she walked in. She was three feet of trouble – the most beautiful halfling he’d ever seen. But Mickey could see it in her eyes. She was in danger.…
keith-baker.com
Well I asked you to start buying them, so that is one.
Also, in a video shortly after the announcement that WOTC would not be deauthorizing OGL 1.0a pretty much said more or less the same thing I have said here.
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There is a difference between disappear and shrink.
If there is a boycott of WOTC 5E content the market absolutely will shrink and 3p creators will be hurt.
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Yes it will.
We lost a paying player in early January due to a WOTC boycott. I further was (and still am) spending extra time preparing because some remaining players won't use DNDBeyond.
In previous posts you were gaslighting me. That is straight up fact. You were trying to manipluate me by questioning the sanity of my reasoning. You are not in this post.
Just because you liked what you were saying, think it was effective at supporting your argument or was popular with other posters does not mean it is not gaslighting.
You were gaslighting me. I still have not figured out how I was gaslighting you or other people though.
Maybe this is true, but the community as a whole doesn't.
The hobby is different than the market. D&D will not disappear if WOTC disappeared. It would not have disappeared if WOTC deauthorized OGL 1.0a. Both of those things would hurt the market and 3p creators.
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No they are not. I know for a fact they are not ALL are playing other games because I know some of them.
I think that most that stopped playing D&D just simply stopped and did not move on. I do not know that is factually true, but I think it is ture.
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Incenjucar
Legend
A boycott big enough to hurt 3Ps is going to mean WotC was probably already doing something bad enough to hurt 3Ps.
Faolyn
(she/her)
DIdn't say all.
And if we're going for anecdotes, I know that the subreddits for SWADE and PbtA have grown, with many, many people talking about moving to those games, and I know that my own table has had no problem moving to SWADE. And I know that's also true of other games as well, because I see people there talking about having moved onto different games (not just SWADE or PbtA).
Have you asked people why they didn't move on to other games? Did they know what options they had, or did they think it was D&D or nothing? Were all the people at their tables willing to move with them, or did they have no one to game with?
So, I do know it's factually true that people have moved to other games.
What 3pp have you produced? Or are you speaking on other people's behalf here?
Faolyn
(she/her)
Only a fraction of 3pp creators will be hurt, and those are people who are making tie-ins, like map packs for published adventures.
People who make original content will not be hurt, and may even be helped, because people who want 5e material will turn to them instead of WotC.
Faolyn
(she/her)
Here's a graph of the PF2e subreddit growth.
YouTubers who make PF2e content seem to be getting more views too, so plenty of people who left 5e clearly have left for other games as you've noted.
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Aldarc
Legend
Ah yes, but even if some 3pp suffer in the short-term from any hypothetical boycott by me, the overall 3pp community will grow because reasons. But don't worry. Not all is without hope; maybe just maybe good fortune will trickle back down to you in time as the greater 3pp grows through my direct contributions.
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