Demetrios1453
Hero
Dragonlance was fairly late getting up for sale there, too; if I remember, it was just after the start of the normal media blitz a couple of months before.
D&D 5E Keys from the Golden Vault
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Nikosandros
Golden Procrastinator
Dragonlance was available for preorder on DDB on August the 18th. There was at least one time when the preorder on DDB was very late, but it was from before they were bought by Wizards.
jasper
Rotten DM
I bought my ecopy of dragonlance 8-20-22 Release dates were Tuesday before Thanksgiving or dec 6. So three months or a little less.
Keys on Amazon 2-21-23 so 40 days.
Parmandur
Book-Friend
A pretty large amount of that going around, yes.
Mind you, I dont think WotC is particularly great shakes, but they remain the corporate type they have been as long as I've played D&D. I don't hold them in esteem, but their cynical profit motive creates things that I enjoy.
Scribe
Legend
Yes, all the 3PP, all the various other RPG heads, creators.
All of them, bad actors. I mean I already know your position on all this, and you are free to have it, but no, this is not 'bad actors'.
Its Wizards taking off the mask, nothing more.
Parmandur
Book-Friend
I mean, they have their interests to defend. Doesn't mean that I have to care, particularly.
Scribe
Legend
Of course you dont have to care. One of the joys of capitalism. Partake and consume, nod and carry on.
Just as I dont have to feel bad that Wizard's is exposed for what many of us figured, nothing but another soulless corporate husk, paying lip service to ideals and concepts, it doesnt support in deed.
Parmandur
Book-Friend
Well, sure, same as they ever were. Did you ever think theybwere more...?
Scribe
Legend
No, but they pretended.
Parmandur
Book-Friend
And they will keep pretending in the future. Same difference.No, but they pretended.
Though in terms of ethical considerations that make a difference to my buying books: WotC prints their books in the USA, not overseas. That is worth more than any "Open Gaming" to me.
humble minion
Legend
No, but we kinda hope that with sufficient pressure from their customer base, they can be forced to pretend to be. Fake it til you make it and all that.
I kinda like the idea of bunch of weasly microtransaction-happy ex-big-tech execs getting pressured into pretending to be enthusiastic about open gaming. It'd be like watching Ming the Merciless unwillingly manning a soup kitchen, muttering resentfully the whole time.
Parmandur
Book-Friend
And maybe it will be so. In the meantime, I'm personally chomping at the bit about the actual product cing down the pipeline.
Demetrios1453
Hero
Ok, I guess I was remembering the wrong product. There was one in the last year or so that was late to show up for pre-order, but I can't remember which.
Demetrios1453
Hero
So, maybe those who want to discuss the OGL situation can do so in one of the literally dozens of other dedicated threads available to do so? This is one of the few active threads discussing other matters, and it's nice to have a space to be able to talk about something else...
humble minion
Legend
Yeah, fair point. Sorry.
plisnithus8
Adventurer
...33 more days
Oofta
Legend
I can honestly say that the latest controversy doesn't make me trust them any less. I never trusted them to be anything but a corporation, one who hopefully continues to create rules and content for a game I enjoy playing, in the first place.
I'll be curious to see what the book actually is, we should know in a couple weeks.
UngeheuerLich
Legend
I hate this attitude. I don't want it to be the last (hopefully good) D&D movie. Would be a sad day for many of us. I mean, if you don't want to see it ok. But hoping noone can enjoy it seems hateful.
