Kill Bill Volume 2 - Spoiler filled discussion

[BrooklynKnight]

Um, thats weird because the way I hear it no scenes were cut from the movie, at all. Nothing was cut. Its possible its an alternate version of a scene that was re-shot.

Anywho. I really enjoyed the movie. Despite the fact that a really annoying person sat next to me. I do think the end was a tad anti-climactic but thats fine.

Vol 2 had far more story and a lot less combat. I do wish it was a bit more intermixed.

I left feeling satisfied, and its the first movie i've ever sat through the credits for.

Anyone else wondering if Kill Bill 3 will come to fruition?

 

[Tewligan]

Anyone else wondering if Kill Bill 3 will come to fruition?

I hope not. Bill has, after all, been killed.

 

[kingpaul]

I hope not. Bill has, after all, been killed.

Not necessarily. We saw him fall...that's it.

 

[KenM]

Anyone else wondering if Kill Bill 3 will come to fruition?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040409/ap_en_mo/people_tarantino_1

 

[BrooklynKnight]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040409/ap_en_mo/people_tarantino_1

yep. Thats the article i'm talking about.

Which only opens the door for BB to get her own revenge on the bride.

Frankly, I wouldnt be suprised if Beatrice trained BB. She told Nikki flat out. "Come and get me". Which was before she knew her daughter was alive.

I'd love to see a Kill Bill 3, it would just make it weird for it to be called Kill Bill 3 when Bill is dead :-D.

I wonder if our now blind friend will make an appearence.

 

[Dark Jezter]

Um, thats weird because the way I hear it no scenes were cut from the movie, at all. Nothing was cut. Its possible its an alternate version of a scene that was re-shot.

Well, then you heard wrong...

What is missing? Well – you won’t see Bill’s fight with Michael Jai White which I described in detail from my China trip… I didn’t ask Quentin why he cut it out, instead, I understood. In this film it was more important that the audience like Bill, than fear his skill. Because it was more important how you feel about the end of the fight, than the anticipation of that fight. To that, it is a testament to how well Quentin understood what was truly important to the story. THAT BEING SAID, I can’t ing wait to see that fight on the extras on a DVD!

And...

The chapter "Yuki's Revenge" was cut from filming to accommodate a new chapter, "Massacre at Two Pines" that details the attack on The Bride.

Plus, there's the fact that the trailers on the Kill Bill Vol. 1 DVD shows brief glimpses of Bill's fight with Michael Jai White.

 

[RangerWickett]

I had forgotten about the Five-Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique, and figured it was just there to be silly. And the fact that, when it happens to Bill, he seems almost amused that it exists, made it work. I loved it.

But I was sure we would cut away to several years in the future, and show Bill wheeling himself along in a wheelchair. One of my friends commented that Bill took six steps, but we're pretty sure they were using basketball rules, and the first step was just a pivot.

I loved it.

 

[Kai Lord]

One of my friends commented that Bill took six steps, but we're pretty sure they were using basketball rules, and the first step was just a pivot.

*laughs* Yep, I counted them, too. Six it was. Maybe since it was assumedly Uma's first time doing the trick she hadn't quite mastered the "kill him in five" part, or Bill is just that much of a badass that he got in an extra step.

 

[barsoomcore]

Great film. Great, great film, with the primary joy being the powerful performances from all the principals: Uma Thurman, David Carradine, Michael Madsen and Daryl Hannah. Wonderful to see these actors putting their chops out on the line and delivering subtle performances all down the line. Not a single misplaced note anywhere.

Uma deserves an Oscar nomination, hands down. Her transitions are so perfect -- when she confronts Bill in front of the chapel, when she clutches her new-found daughter to her, when she witnesses the results of Esteban's "cutting" -- absolutely perfect, beautifully specific.

I'm glad this story didn't get cut down to three hours -- four hours is nearly perfect. There are perhaps two moments in the two films that might be accused of being "padding" -- the long sequence of the Bride's trip from Okinawa to the House of Blue Leaves in Vol 1 and the latter part of the Bride's reunion with B.B., as they lie on the bed watching Shogun Assassin.

That said, I'm very sorry that "Yuki's Revenge" got pulled -- it was just about my favourite part of the sceenplay. For those who don't know, Yuki is (I think) Gogo's little sister who comes to the States to track down the Bride for her own revenge. There's a brilliant sequence of this sadistic, brutal killer of a girl having vacation photos taken around California, with her hands in the ubiquitous Japanese vacation photo gesture of the "peace" sign. It sure made me laugh.

But Vol 2 more than amply filled out the themes that had been sketched into Vol 1, and provides a heartfelt redemption for our hardcore killer angel. Nicely done.

It seems to be tracking to do substantially better than its predecessor, which is a neat trick for a sequel. Combine that with the very strong performance of the first film's DVD release and I think Miramax have to be pretty happy with the decisions they made on this picture -- firstly to give QT the freedom to do what he wanted, and secondly to break it into two films.

 

[kingpaul]

*laughs* Yep, I counted them, too. Six it was. Maybe since it was assumedly Uma's first time doing the trick she hadn't quite mastered the "kill him in five" part, or Bill is just that much of a badass that he got in an extra step.

Oh good, I'm not the only one that counted them out. The folks I went to see the movie with thought I was mad when I started counting Bill's steps. The fact that he took 6 and then collapsed tells me that he didn't die...very similar to the way that Uma didn't die from the bullet to the head.