D&D 5E L&L November 4th Warlock Design


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Warlock was the break out hit of 3.5

It was the only splatbook base class I actually liked, and the only one I approve of adding to the PHB.

However, I'm not really too keen on the inherent connection to a pact that 4e made. I don't mind it as an option, but I just don't really want to have to put as much (or more!) patron-dependence on a warlock as on a cleric.

I mean, in some official settings clerics haven't even needed deities. If they can access magic just by belief and meditation, I see no reason why a warlock can't wrest arcane power from the cosmos without making an actual bargain with anyone.

Infused with arcane power = required. Agreement with an entity = optional.
 

I mean, in some official settings clerics haven't even needed deities. If they can access magic just by belief and meditation, I see no reason why a warlock can't wrest arcane power from the cosmos without making an actual bargain with anyone.

Infused with arcane power = required. Agreement with an entity = optional.

The main thing about Warlocks is they get magic from some dodgy or unpleasant sources. A patron they have a pact with would generally be an unpleasant source, but I'd guess they could conceivably get power from something they killed/stole power from, or maybe something like a parasite, infection or curse (of awesomeness).
 


The main thing about Warlocks is they get magic from some dodgy or unpleasant sources. A patron they have a pact with would generally be an unpleasant source, but I'd guess they could conceivably get power from something they killed/stole power from, or maybe something like a parasite, infection or curse (of awesomeness).

Exactly. Options to allow different dynamics for character concepts.
 




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Warlocks are the best thing that ever happened to 3.5.

Did you throw a gigantic toy out of your pram as you said that, the visual I got was hilarious.

I don't think it's a bad class, in either edition, I DMed my buddy's 4th Ed warlock for 2 years, I just personally find it a bit...hmm, trying to find a word that doesn't get people in a hump, just personal, I much prefer the Incarnate and Binder, I also dig the Spirit Shaman and the Tome of Battle classes.
 

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I liked the idea of the Warlock, and appreciated them adding it in 3.5Ed...but I didn't like its execution. However, its among my faves if not outright #1 of the 4Ed classes, largely because of how they fleshed it out- IOW, more than one kind of Pact with which to make he's bargain.

So it will be n of the first classes I'll look at in 5th.
 

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