LA question...

[Klaus]

Take a peek at this race from d20 Future:

Sesheyan (Monstrous Humanoid)
- Medium
- +2 Dex, -2 Cha
- Speed 30 ft., fly 40 ft. (good, average in light armor, 30 ft. poor im medium armor).
- Armor Restriction (cannot wear armor designed for other species)
- Control Descent: If conscious and able to use wings, never takes damage from a fall.
- Darkvision 60 ft.
- Light Sensitivity (dark-tinted goggles negate)
- Techonophobic: -4 on Computer Use, Craft (eletronic, mechanical), Demolitions, Disable Device, Drive, Knowledge (technology), Pilor, Repair.
- Bonus Feat: Stealthy (+2 Hide, Move Silently).
- LA: +0

Could this race be used as-is in D&D (changing the technophobia for a penalty to arcane and some roguish stuff)? Or are d20 Modern/Future races unbalanced for D&D? If the race can be used, the raptorans and all that "partial-flight until Nth level" becomes obsolete.

So, opinions?

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

Take a peek at this race from d20 Future:

Sesheyan (Monstrous Humanoid)
- Medium
- +2 Dex, -2 Cha
- Speed 30 ft., fly 40 ft. (good, average in light armor, 30 ft. poor im medium armor).
- Armor Restriction (cannot wear armor designed for other species)
- Control Descent: If conscious and able to use wings, never takes damage from a fall.
- Darkvision 60 ft.
- Light Sensitivity (dark-tinted goggles negate)
- Techonophobic: -4 on Computer Use, Craft (eletronic, mechanical), Demolitions, Disable Device, Drive, Knowledge (technology), Pilor, Repair.
- Bonus Feat: Stealthy (+2 Hide, Move Silently).
- LA: +0

Could this race be used as-is in D&D (changing the technophobia for a penalty to arcane and some roguish stuff)? Or are d20 Modern/Future races unbalanced for D&D? If the race can be used, the raptorans and all that "partial-flight until Nth level" becomes obsolete.

So, opinions?

The race can't be used as-in in D20 Future. Look at its darkvision. Look at it's speed. Yes, it can fly 80 feet in a round, but it can't even see that far! (Sesheyans live in dark thick forests on an alien planet; there's so little light a human could hardly see. Crashing into trees would be a serious problem. Based on logic, not to mention Alternity flavor, they should have had low-light vision instead.)

Furthermore, you don't know the flavor of the race. You might not care, though, but the Future version doesn't match the Alternity version's flavor.

I don't think it's LA +0 in D20 Modern. Being able to fly is powerful, although in D20 Future you can probably just buy a flying harness and get away with that. (Unlike in DnD, you can't use Wealth as a balancing technique in D20 Modern or Future. So please don't mention the wings of flying.) In DnD, this is definitely an LA +1 race.

 

[the Jester]

Flight alone is worth +1 to +2 LA, imho.

 

[Stormrunner]

D20 Future does indeed list the race as LA +0.
However, technophobic is a pretty serious disadvantage in a Future setting. The D&D equivalent would be to have them unable/unwiling to use any form of magic. Plus they have basically a Stone Age civilization, so no metal weapons in your starting gear, limited Knowledge skills, etc.

 

[Mistwell]

Flight alone is worth +1 to +2 LA, imho.

I thought Raptorians (Races of Wild) are LA +0?

 

[Thaniel]

I thought Raptorians (Races of Wild) are LA +0?

Possibly. But they don't get flight at 1st level. They get it later on. That's how they (supposedly) balance it.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Look at its darkvision. Look at it's speed. Yes, it can fly 80 feet in a round, but it can't even see that far!

Um, no, it can't see 80 feet... but it can see 60 feet from where it is at any given time.

So if it wants to fly forward 80 feet, then after it's covered the first 20 feet of that path, it can see the end point...

-Hyp.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

Um, no, it can't see 80 feet... but it can see 60 feet from where it is at any given time.

So if it wants to fly forward 80 feet, then after it's covered the first 20 feet of that path, it can see the end point...

-Hyp.

Continual surprise during flight? No, really, you can't even see the point you want to fly to. That's going to cause combat problems.

 

[KarinsDad]

Continual surprise during flight? No, really, you can't even see the point you want to fly to. That's going to cause combat problems.

Why?

At every point in combat, you can see 60 feet around you (assuming it is dark).

No problems beyond what any Darkvision 60' character has. Or, even a high speed creature like a high level Half-Orc Monk. Or even a 30 speed human with a torch.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

Why?

At every point in combat, you can see 60 feet around you (assuming it is dark).

No problems beyond what any Darkvision 60' character has. Or, even a high speed creature like a high level Half-Orc Monk. Or even a 30 speed human with a torch.

I want to fly towards that archer who is shooting my friend and stab him in the face with my primitive spear. Oh wait, I can't even see him! I certainly can't charge him.