D&D 5E Levitate is a save-or-die spell

[Mistwell]

He didn't say levitation caused them to be weightless...

Instead he said "but for purposes of horizontal movement you're weightless."

That's clearly not him defining the spell as causing actual weightlessness.

Why did you misrepresent his words?

Don't speak for other people Froggy. I didn't misrepresent anything I asked him how it works in his game. You cannot answer that for him.

 

[Mistwell]

I'm having a hard time thinking of a situation where that would apply, given that Levitate itself has a weight limit that's as or more restrictive than most other spells.

(though technically with Levitate it should be a mass limit...)

If a spell says "you can move X amount of weight with this spell" can it move the levitated creature (horizontally) if they would normally weigh more than the weight limit?

 

[FrogReaver]

How is "baring something in the spell description saying otherwise, treat it like normal" adding to the spell? ALL spells work that way.

How does wind normally interact with a levitated creature? Hint there is no rule on that. Thus, treating it like normal depends solely upon how the DM determines wind interacting with a levitated creature normally behaves.

 

[Mistwell]

How does wind normally interact with a levitated creature? Hint there is no rule on that.

How does wind interact with a creature if they are flying? On the ground? It'a all the same answer. Unless something in the spell description says otherwise, it doesn't have any effect. Wind doesn't do anything in the game, unless it says it does.

 

[FrogReaver]

Don't speak for other people Froggy.

1. I didn't speak for other people. I spoke for myself.
2. I've been reported for statements similar to yours here. Seems it's against the rules to tell others what to do.

 

[FrogReaver]

How does wind interact with a creature if they are flying? On the ground? It'a all the same answer. Unless something in the spell description says otherwise, it doesn't have any effect. Wind doesn't do anything in the game, unless it says it does.

Interesting. So you would never have wind push a flying creature around while not pushing a ground based creature around?

 

[Maxperson]

Does it matter? I mean, as long as you don't change the parameters of the spell to give disadvantage to the target, advantage to hit, limit movement by the target to pulling or pushing against a fixed object.

There is no instability like 3.5 had. The spell is explicit that throwing heavy objects, wind or other forces don't move the target. the only way to move is to push or pull against a fixed object. You obviously aren't floating aimlessly - if you were there would be penalties.

No it isn't. It is only explicit that the target can only move himself by those means. It says nothing about being moved by something else.

 

[Maxperson]

Can the wind move them if they were on the ground? Then it can move them when levitated. If the wind couldn't move them when on the ground, then it cannot move them when levitated, because levitation does not grant any special movement abilities aside from the specified move against fixed objects.

That's a fairly blatant False Equivalence. Wind blowing an object on the ground does not equal the wind blowing the same object while it is suspended. Try it some time. Take a small flower put and put in in decent wind. It won't move on the ground. Now suspend it by a thread in the same strength wind. It will move.

 

[Mistwell]

Interesting. So you would never have wind push a flying creature around while not pushing a ground based creature around?

Correct.

 

[Maxperson]

And of course THAT raises the question of what happens if a 2nd wizard casts Levitate on an already levitated creature, and then fights the first wizard for control....

That's not really that hard. Actions don't happen simultaneously, so assuming the target failed both saves, he would be subject to movement by both casters on their respective turns, per the spell's text on what the caster can do to the target.