Loremasters Lore

[Luigiana]

How does that work?

Do you get your Loremaster level to checks or your ECL (total level) to checks?

 

[Tovec]

Lore: Loremasters gather knowledge. At second level, a loremaster gains the ability to know legends or information regarding various topics, just as a bard can with bardic knowledge. The loremaster adds her level and her Intelligence modifier to the lore check. See page 28 of the Player's Handbook for more information on bardic knowledge.

Bardic Knowledge: A bard picks up a lot of stray knowledge while wandering the land and learning stories from other bards. He may make a special bardic knowledge check with a bonus equal to his bard level + his Intelligence modifier to see whether he knows some relevant information about local notable people, legendary items, or noteworthy places. (If the bard has 5 or more ranks in Knowledge (history), he gains a +2 bonus on this check.) A successful bardic knowledge check will not reveal the powers of a magic item but may give a hint as to its general function. A bard may not take 10 or take 20 on this check; this sort of knowledge is essentially random. The DM can determine the Difficulty Class of the check by referring to the table above.

I have quoted the appropriate sections of the PHB and DMG.
Okay so, as I understand it, Loremaster's levels stack with the bard but otherwise works exactly like bardic knowledge. So take Loremaster + INT mod then roll.
I know it's a bit ambiguous but based on other examples, it should only count loremaster levels not ALL HD.

In case anyone else out there needed the references, there they are in case you want to dispute my answer.

 

[Dandu]

I go for the interpretation that would not make it useless.

 

[Luigiana]

I have quoted the appropriate sections of the PHB and DMG.
Okay so, as I understand it, Loremaster's levels stack with the bard but otherwise works exactly like bardic knowledge. So take Loremaster + INT mod then roll.
I know it's a bit ambiguous but based on other examples, it should only count loremaster levels not ALL HD.

In case anyone else out there needed the references, there they are in case you want to dispute my answer.

So with Bardic Knowledge u can take a knowledge check on every knowledge there exists?

 

[Dandu]

Not... quite.

 

[Luigiana]

Not... quite.

so its up to the GM when bardic knowledge can be used?

 

[Tovec]

so its up to the GM when bardic knowledge can be used?

Isn't it up to the GM when ANY knowledge can be used (effectively)?

Bardic knowledge is just another kind of knowledge. One that "checks" for obscure or relatively unknown things. Things that would have been picked up by that bard in passing through stories or legends. It is not "hard" knowledge you are likely to find in a tome and for that reason it can be very useful or not useful at all depending on situation and DM.