Lost 3/21/2007

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

First off, whoever said that Locke was a protagonist? They'd been building up to this since the beginning. Hell, in the first season, he's the one who attacked Sayid and sabotaged the radio to prevent that initial chance of contacting outsiders. Locke is interesting and sympathetic, but he's NOT one of the good guys. (I'd argue that Sawyer is closer to being one of the good guys. He just needs therapy.)

Secondly, I think the magic box is either another name for or the object that produces the smoke monster. Locke's dad is no more really there than Jack's dad came back to life, Kate saw the horse, Sayid saw the cat or Mr. Eko saw his brother. Smoke monster, smoke monster, smoke monster, smoke monster, smoke monster.

That the device keyed into Ben and Locke wanting the same thing and produced it for them doesn't mean the Man from Talahassee is really there. (Of course, I could be wrong.)

One thing I haven't seen anyone comment on is who the hostiles/Others are, if they're not really the Dharma Initiative. If they are the Dharma Initiative, who are the hostiles referred to in the security program at The Flame?

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Despite the fact that his father is a complete waste of space on the planet, he's still John's father, with John having grown up without a father. To someone in that situation, psychologically speaking, he's probably willing to take a bad father, rather than have no father. So he didn't rat him out.

My wife's grandfather abandoned a family of eight children. To this day, all but one of them are pathetically eager for his approval. (Not to mention they're ALL screwed up to some degree or another.) I found Locke's behavior toward his dad depressingly believable.

 

[GoodKingJayIII]

As far as I'm concerned the shark has officially been jumped.

Magic box... I couldn't stop laughing after Ben said that.

 

[Sir Brennen]

Smoke monster, smoke monster, smoke monster, smoke monster, smoke monster.

You'll only convince me once we see the mirror monster.

As far as I'm concerned the shark has officially been jumped.

Magic box... I couldn't stop laughing after Ben said that.

I'm in the "It's a MET-A-PHOR!!!" camp, personally. Ben even said he was trying to describe it in a way that Locke would understand.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

Magic box...

It has got to be a metaphor for the way the island behaves. I don't think we're going to see Calvin's (of Calvin and Hobbs) magic transmorgification box. Or even Kelvin's magic transmorgification box.

Ben wants people to think he's got a handle on the "box" but he does not.

And I don't think Tony Cooper is the smoke monster, unless the Others have tamed it. The smoke monster would have to be behaving in atypical ways for it to do that. It has been established the Others are ruthless and can reach the mainland. I bet a bucket of beech sand it is really Locke's father.

 

[Richards]

In the shots of Jack and the blond fertility scientist chick (I'm spacing out on her name) talking by the side of the house, with Kate and Locke looking on through the binoculars, was I imagining it or did Jack have a prominent red tattoo on his forearm? I know Jack has a rather elaborate tattoo on his upper arm, but I don't recall ever seeing anything on his forearm. Was I just imagining this, or was it supposed to mean something? (Not sure what, though. Maybe that wasn't the real Jack?)

I also agree that Locke had a bunch of great lines, but I also liked Ben's reply about where they're getting their electricity by saying they have two giant hamsters running on a wheel....

Johnathan

 

[Taelorn76]

In the shots of Jack and the blond fertility scientist chick (I'm spacing out on her name) talking by the side of the house, with Kate and Locke looking on through the binoculars, was I imagining it or did Jack have a prominent red tattoo on his forearm? I know Jack has a rather elaborate tattoo on his upper arm, but I don't recall ever seeing anything on his forearm. Was I just imagining this, or was it supposed to mean something? (Not sure what, though. Maybe that wasn't the real Jack?)
Johnathan

Yeah I noticed the new tat as well

 

[Steve Jung]

I doubt the other survivors will ever realize how close they were or weren't to escape, but I do wonder, like Mark, why Locke was wet.

Soon we'll have to start calling him Gilligan.

 

[Felon]

I'm in the "It's a MET-A-PHOR!!!" camp, personally. Ben even said he was trying to describe it in a way that Locke would understand.

Yes yes yes, it is of course a metaphor.

I don't think there is any other camp.

 

[Fast Learner]

GoodKingJay seems to be in another camp, hence the comments.