Lost S04E08 20 Mar 08 - Meet Kevin Johnson (Spoilers)

[Hand of Evil]

I figured that Tom's encounters with Michael occured before Sawyer killed him (although my next statement may address this in part).

As for the apparant shortness of time between Michael fleeing the Island and his subsequent return, remember that there's some kind of time distortion as it relates to the Island.

the question is IF it is a year, which I did not see on the calendar but when Micheal was in the hospital was there not a X-mas tree in the background. Maybe it has only been five days from Tom's death on the island but...that is a damn fast sub before Locke blew it up, that is IF, which we are kind of sure is not the only way on or off the island.

 

[Remus Lupin]

Did anyone catch the reference to "Slaughter House 5" on TV just as Michael was getting ready to pull the trigger? I would have missed it if I hadn't had the CC on. I figure they wouldn't have bothered to caption it if it hadn't been important.

Perhaps our losties are "unstuck in time."

 

[LightPhoenix]

So I'm of two minds on this episode. There were parts I really liked, and parts I really hated.

I liked Michael in general, and I think Harold Perinneau knocked his stuff out of the park..

Sayid's anger was justified, and Desmond's more level-headedness was also apt.

I was not expecting Rousseau to get shot. I love Mira Furlan though. I hope she's not dead.

Also, I guess Aaron is considered one of the O6, given the commercial afterward. That doesn't really sit well with me.

I wish I could say we actually learned anything from the episode. I suppose we did learn what happened to Michael. Unfortunately, since everything came from Ben/Tom/Others, I pretty much classify everything else as meaningless drivel. Perhaps that's why I'm ambivalent with regards to the episode. I also think that the first five episodes moved right along and progressed the story, whereas these last three only marginally did. Perhaps that's a part of it too.

 

[F5]

Did anyone catch the reference to "Slaughter House 5" on TV just as Michael was getting ready to pull the trigger? I would have missed it if I hadn't had the CC on. I figure they wouldn't have bothered to caption it if it hadn't been important.

Perhaps our losties are "unstuck in time."

This is my prediction. I suspect we’ll find that the “flashbacks” and “flash-forwards” we’ve seen aren’t narrative devices at all…this is really how time is flowing for the Losties. Desmond is the only one who is aware of it, as yet, but I think others will start to become aware from one “flashback” to the next. Maybe this is what happened when Locke didn’t punch in The Numbers way back when…the Losties broke time.

Maybe that's why you "can't kill yourself" on the island; as long as you have been on the island at some point in time, you will always be there...

 

[dravot]

I figured that Tom's encounters with Michael occured before Sawyer killed him (although my next statement may address this in part).

As for the apparant shortness of time between Michael fleeing the Island and his subsequent return, remember that there's some kind of time distortion as it relates to the Island.

True, but we have an absolute time reference of December 24th, the day that Desmond talks to Penny - that's 3 months (give or take) from when Flight 815 went down.

Also, Michael's mother mentioned that they'd been gone for 2 months.

 

[dravot]

Also, I guess Aaron is considered one of the O6, given the commercial afterward. That doesn't really sit well with me.

What's wrong with it? I could see it in real life - the baby born on the island and rescued back to civilization? That's big news - happy news in the midst of the tragedy of 319 deaths. There's no way he wouldn't be included.

Your lack of satisfaction puzzles me.

 

[LightPhoenix]

Your lack of satisfaction puzzles me.

In Kate's flashforward, no one seems to be aware Aaron isn't Kate's baby. Yet Aaron is one of the O6, and various characters have refered to the O6 by that specific title. That makes no sense to me.

Now, if Claire was one of the O6, and she died off the island, then I could understand. It's misleading, but at least it makes some sort of sense.

 

[Felon]

Well, I guess it is pretty much confirmed that there is something supernatural or mystical about the island from what Mr. Friendly said to Michael about "The island won't let you kill yourself." Which totally go against what the writers (J J Abrams and company) claimed in the beginning. Basically, that there are scientific (or at least science ficion) explainations with everything on the island (which came into question when the smoke monster appeared).

What makes you think it confirms that there's something supernatural or mystical about the island? Taking a page from Clark's Law, anything that you can think of as mystical can also be explained as science fiction. Look at the reference to Slaughterhouse Five. That's some really metaphysical science those aliens used to "unstick" Billy Pilgrim. We know there are factors about the island dealing with time and predetermination of events. Maybe the island mucks with quantum mechanics instead of magic.

 

[Felon]

I figured that Tom's encounters with Michael occured before Sawyer killed him (although my next statement may address this in part).

As for the apparant shortness of time between Michael fleeing the Island and his subsequent return, remember that there's some kind of time distortion as it relates to the Island.

Right, we may actually find out that quite a bit of time has passed. Heck, Walt might be grown up.

 

[dravot]

Right, we may actually find out that quite a bit of time has passed. Heck, Walt might be grown up.

Except that the boat is at the island on December 24th 2004 - when Desmond talks to Penny.