LOST - Wednesday 10/05/05 9:00 PM EDT

[Tarrasque Wrangler]

Can't recall their names, but the orientation film mentions the two Doctoral students, husband and wife, who came up with the Dharma Initiative. I think those two are the season 1 cave-corpses dubbed "Adam & Eve."

I just watched that episode a couple nights ago, and Jack says that it would have taken 40 or 50 years (can't remember exactly) for the bodies and clothes to deteriorate as much as they had.

As I said, I can't remember exactly how many years he said, but it was a lot longer that the 25 years since that Orientation movie was copyrighted.

 

[Tarrasque Wrangler]

I'm just gonna throw this out there -

The Others are Cylons. As is Locke.

Mmmm hmm.

Nope. Black Oil aliens. Remember when they got stung by all those bees? Just you wait and see.

 

[ThirdWizard]

The psych ward patient that gives Hurley the numbers doesn't have to have been Desmond's partner: he could have been anyone who was subjected to the experiment in the last 25 years.

Any reason to disbelieve the story that they overheard the numbers on a radio frequency while listening to transmisions in the Pacific Ocean? We know it was being broadcast (for whatever reason), as the French woman told them that she got the numbers from the transmision before chaning it. He seems to have gone insane because of the horrible luck brought about by the use of the numbers, as Hurly can attest.

I don't believe he was ever involved in the experiments on the island.

I don't think the countdown is just a psyche test. That would be too anti-climatic, I think, unless they can offer up something beyond it just being their new bed and breakfast. Admittedly, why it can't be automated, or whatever I can't explain. However, on an island as weird as this one, I can't help but think this isn't the place to run across a normal psyche test. There's something to it.

 

[RigaMortus2]

Also, what if the psych ward Hurly was in has something to do with the Hanso corporation?

 

[John Crichton]

Nope. Black Oil aliens. Remember when they got stung by all those bees? Just you wait and see.

Ya know, that's *just* what a <b>Cylon</b> would say.

* looks around *

 

[Cutter XXIII]

I just watched that episode a couple nights ago, and Jack says that it would have taken 40 or 50 years (can't remember exactly) for the bodies and clothes to deteriorate as much as they had.

As I said, I can't remember exactly how many years he said, but it was a lot longer that the 25 years since that Orientation movie was copyrighted.

D'oh! That'll show me for making theories about Season 1 when I haven't seen it yet! I'm seriously tempted to go buy it, but I entered the Lost Haiku contest on Ain't It Cool News, and I'm waiting to see if I won!

So it's not the DeGroots in the cave. Okay. It still shows that things have been weird on the island long before Alvar Hanso and the DeGroots showed up.

I went back to look at the Dharma Logo on the shark -- it is NOT the Swan symbol. Although the I Ching hexagrams go around the edge, the center looks like a black, circular field with a straight white line across the middle. This lends credence to the idea that all 6 stations are on this one island (since two different logos have been seen, and we know that at least one logo corresponds to a specific station).

Oh, by the way...my entry in the Lost Haiku contest:

Jump back Jack! Desmond
Predicted your miracle
And he has a gun

 

[Cutter XXIII]

One other thing for the mathematicians, to satisfy my curiosity:

I've seen a lot of talk over whether the numbers are a sequence, which ones are prime, etc. But what happens if you add 5 to the sequence (besides making the total 113)?

4 5 8 15 16 23 42. What does that do, mathematically speaking?

5 x 108 = 540 days in the bunker.
5 in Jack's tattoo
Discordian Law of Fives: "The Law of Fives states simply that: ALL THINGS HAPPEN IN FIVES, OR ARE DIVISIBLE BY OR ARE MULTIPLES OF FIVE, OR ARE SOMEHOW DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY APPROPRIATE TO 5. The Law of Fives is never wrong."

Now, that last one is only sort of a joke. "I find the Law of Fives to be more and more manifest the harder I look," says the Principia Discordia. But finding more and more numbers the harder you look is the experience of Lost.

 

[Taelorn76]

Here on the east coast the re-aired this weeks episode. But the previews for next weeks were different.
[sblock]They showed the Charlie confronting Hurley and the shower seen. The they cut to Micheal and Sawyer and say we will find more answers about the others(tail section peeps) Shows Ana Lucia leading them thru a dark tunnel and into a bigger room with a blonde woman. I could't tell who said it but it sounded like Sawyer saying "I thought you said there were twenty three" With the blonde woman replying "there were". Then they cut to Jin speaking english.[/sblock]

 

[WayneLigon]

4 5 8 15 16 23 42. What does that do, mathematically speaking?

I have not yet seen anyone come up with anything it fits - no meaningful sequence, no obscure mathematical model or lost/unsolved function - so it's probably just something they came up with.

 

[Bran Blackbyrd]

Michelle Rodriguez's character may have been another marshal. That could explain why she turned on the guys the minute Sawyer told her whom the gun had belonged to.
Well, that and she doesn't want her big black companion shot.

 

[Hand of Evil]

I have not yet seen anyone come up with anything it fits - no meaningful sequence, no obscure mathematical model or lost/unsolved function - so it's probably just something they came up with.

There have been a number of thoughts on it but nothing factual just interesting. Like Jack and others have said, they are just numbers.

 

[dluvsk4ever]

Ok Ladies Heres The Dharma and Numbers Secret You've Been Waiting For

OK WE ALL NOW WHAT THE DHARMA SIGNAL LLOKS LIKE I HOPE, BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT IT IS THE ONE WITH THE SWAN IN THE MIDDLE AND THE LINES AROUND IT. NOW SOME OF YOU HAVE FIGURED OUT WHERE THE LINES COME FROM (I CHING), AND SOME MAY KNOW THAT IT IS A COMPASS (AH YOU DIDN'T) WELL IT IS ONLY IT IS UPSIDE DOWN, WHICH MEANS SOUTH IS NORTH, AND IN I CHING SOUTH IS THE SAME AS HELL, HMMMMM.... NEXT, WHICH IS WEIRD...... HEAVEN IS NW (BOTTOM RIGHT) ON THE DHARMA COMPASS. NOW WE ALL KNOW THAT IF YOU PRESS THE http://www.dharmaindustries.com/ LINK (GO AHEAD YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO, JUST COME BACK) IT BRINGS UP THE PICTURE I AM REFERING TO, BUT WATCH CLOSELY, SEE HOW THEY HIGHLIGHT WELL EACH ONE OF THEM IS A NUMBER IN (I CHING) ALSO, CREEPY EH AND BY NUMBER IM SURE YOU ALL KNOW WHAT NUMBERS I AM REFFERING TO, OH COME ON REALLY 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 ONLY THE MOST IMPORTANT NUMBERS IN THE NEW FREE WORLD, ANYWAY THE WAY THE LINES HIGHLIGHT, THEY LINK TWO TO EACH OTHER, THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT NONE OF THEM LINK TO HEAVEN. WATCH CLOSELY YOU'LL SEE. SO HAVING SAID THAT I KNOW THAT I WILL GET REBUTTALS, AND THAN SOME POSSIBLE FAN MAIL, SO REFER THE HATE TO ME AND THE FAN MAIL TO MY FIANCE. CAUSE I CAN TAKE THE HATE. SWEEEEEET

 

[ThirdWizard]

I wrote a program that converts caps to lower case for just such emergencies.

ok we all now what the dharma signal lloks like i hope, but for those of you that don't know what im talking about it is the one with the swan in the middle and the lines around it. now some of you have figured out where the lines come from (i ching), and some may know that it is a compass (ah you didn't) well it is only it is upside down, which means south is north, and in i ching south is the same as hell, hmmmmm.... next, which is weird...... heaven is nw (bottom right) on the dharma compass. now we all know that if you press the http://www.dharmaindustries.com/ link (go ahead you know you want to, just come back) it brings up the picture i am refering to, but watch closely, see how they highlight well each one of them is a number in (i ching) also, creepy eh and by number im sure you all know what numbers i am reffering to, oh come on really 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 only the most important numbers in the new free world, anyway the way the lines highlight, they link two to each other, the only problem is that none of them link to heaven. watch closely you'll see. so having said that i know that i will get rebuttals, and than some possible fan mail, so refer the hate to me and the fan mail to my fiance. cause i can take the hate. sweeeeeet

If only the program could make paragraphs as well. Version 1.1 will make anything after a single period capital if I ever get around to it.

 

[John Crichton]

I wrote a program that converts caps to lower case for just such emergencies.



If only the program could make paragraphs as well. Version 1.1 will make anything after a single period capital if I ever get around to it.

First off - Sweet program.

Second - This guy's post wasn't worth it. It's too bad your program doesn't add real and insightful commentary. Note that he was trying to put it in all caps and font size 7...

 

[ThirdWizard]

Second - This guy's post wasn't worth it. It's too bad your program doesn't add real and insightful commentary.

Now that would be a useful program!

 

[Hand of Evil]

Was watching the repeat Saturday night @ 8 and noticed the film at the very beginning said Orientation for station 3 of 6, missed that the first time. Also the preview for the next one had more in it...

[sblock]Jin, Micheal, & Sawyer are taken to a station and you learn there were 23 from the tail section.[/sblock]

 

[Taelorn76]

Was watching the repeat Saturday night @ 8 and noticed the film at the very beginning said Orientation for station 3 of 6, missed that the first time. Also the preview for the next one had more in it...

[sblock]Jin, Micheal, & Sawyer are taken to a station and you learn there were 23 from the tail section.[/sblock]

Glad I wasn't the only one that caught that on Saturday night

 

[Taelorn76]

http://www.dharmaindustries.com/

Haven't we established this is a Fan site, Not affiliated with Disney or ABC?

 

[Hand of Evil]

Glad I wasn't the only one that caught that on Saturday night

Hope they continue to do it too, last year they started and stopped the Saturday repeats.

 

[Undead Pete]

Since Ethan Rom was an anagram for Other Man, I thought I would try it with Alvar Hanso.

Here's a good website for this: http://wordsmith.org/anagram/ I haven't found anything that is obvious, but I doubt it would be so obvious.