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Ladislaus
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In case anyone did not know, Wizards of the Coast updated the Player's Handbook FAQ regarding the new version of magic missile (see entry #38).
About time. Now we have an official definition of attack.
Gradine
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Huzzah! And the peasants rejoiced!
For some reason, reading this and the power entry for Rain of Steel, I suddenly thought of that bit on the Simpsons, where Bart says something like "I'm just going to move my arms in a circle and move forward. If you don't move, I'm not at fault--I didn't hit you."PHB FAQ said:
Aulirophile
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Monks using the movement technique of Full Discipline powers are making attacks by that definition... the power has an attack line, and a target line.
Wardens shifting into a Form are attacking, but actually using the Form's attack is not an attack because it isn't "the initial use."
And Warlord's are now attacking their allies when they use quite a lot of powers.
Eeeee, that FAQ.... causes a lot more problems then it solved.
Least they didn't say "all attacks" follow those rules. There are some utility powers that would be broken. Though I guess that is debatable. If you take that as the entire definition of an attack (is an attack power, has a target line and/or an attack line > is an attack) then Class Features, Racials, and Utilities are never attacks. FAQ takes precedence over what the books say.
Wardens shifting into a Form are attacking, but actually using the Form's attack is not an attack because it isn't "the initial use."
And Warlord's are now attacking their allies when they use quite a lot of powers.
Eeeee, that FAQ.... causes a lot more problems then it solved.
Least they didn't say "all attacks" follow those rules. There are some utility powers that would be broken. Though I guess that is debatable. If you take that as the entire definition of an attack (is an attack power, has a target line and/or an attack line > is an attack) then Class Features, Racials, and Utilities are never attacks. FAQ takes precedence over what the books say.
Plane Sailing
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I could understand someone deciding that Errata takes precedence over what the books say, but FAQs are just an attempt to explain, surely?
As such, an FAQ answer is an attempt to explain rules in a way which sheds light on them, but I wouldn't have thought that means it takes precedence over the books, otherwise you'd have all kinds of strangeness where loosely written and edited FAQs just end up confusing things.
Mind you, back in the old days if I disagreed with "Ask the Sage" in The Dragon, I just ignored it; I'd do the same with FAQs today. My game, my rules. Thus I'm probably not in the target group for this discussion
Aulirophile
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No, in the event of multiple possible interpretations, the official FAQ becomes the only RAW interpretation. And yes, they often end up confusing things.
And with LFR it effects a lot more then home games, which do whatever the DM says so often that is doesn't really bear discussing.
And with LFR it effects a lot more then home games, which do whatever the DM says so often that is doesn't really bear discussing.
Pickles JG
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Lose the +int from the hit damage expression & add it as an effect.
Of course I am happy with the revised version (as in don't care much either way)
UngeheuerLich
Legend
it has to read: that target enemies i guess...
and the wardens form attacks have their own attack power description, so no problem here i guess...
most easy way: all powers that negatively and directly affect an enemy are attacks.
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