Don't bet on it. All metallic and otherwise previously good dragons we have seen so far are unaligned now.
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Don't bet on it. All metallic and otherwise previously good dragons we have seen so far are unaligned now.
Phaezen
Adventurer
ppaladin123
Adventurer
Ohh....there are stats in the back of the book to play as a bullywug, a duergar, and a kenku. sweet.
Dannager
First Post
I don't think the reason is incomprehensible at all - a lot of people just didn't find brass or bronze dragons as compelling as copper, silver or gold dragons. Adamantine dragons are far more interesting, thematically, to me. In fact, this reason seems pretty obvious; even if you don't agree that those monsters aren't particularly compelling, it should be clear that a lot of people would find adamantine dragons cooler than bronze dragons.
So, really, was this actually incomprehensible to you? I mean, I was able to come up with a completely comprehensible reason after thinking about it for all of 15 seconds, so it can't have been that hard.
lutecius
Explorer
I think they wanted to get rid of "alloy dragons". Maybe they'll appear in future books, there's always room for more dragons. I don't think it's a bad move. The brass and copper often got mixed up and Iron Dragon sounds good. "Adamantine dragon" is terrible, though.
It's probably Mystery Sphinx or Sphinx, Mystery. Still cheesy but makes more sense.
There is no guarantee they are good.
Doesn't count. Some D&D editions are more Awesome than others
I wonder what the new erinyes looks like. Another ugly angel? Or maybe an über harpy, like in mythology?
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That doesn't make much sense. The metallic dragons don't consist out of metal, so whats the problem with them looking like an alloy?
The other often stated reason don't make sense either.
Reason 1: Bronze, brass and copper look to much alike. Thats why we now have iron, silver, adamantine and grey dragons (AKA the grey squad).
Reason 2: Those dragons being uninteresting? Bronze dragons were among the most fleshed out dragon types in previous edition which didn't follow some generic cliches. Compared to the bronzes role (A see borne dragon species which are fascinated by war) iron and adamantine dragons are dull and boring. And I take a prankster copper dragon over some cliche and boring "Big dragons who hordes treasure and otherwise has no personality" every day.
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lutecius
Explorer
I don't know, not sticking to a theme? And looking at the adamantine's abilities, they may (at least partly) be made of metal.
Grey dragon? Anyway, I agree the adamantine is too much but Iron sounds cool and could be the new species fascinated by war.
I'm sure you have noticed the mm1 monsters weren't very fleshed out and 4e doesn't care much about the old fluff. Also, i've always had trouble associating bronze with the sea.
But it could just be another case of pimping the new stuff first and keep the old to sell future books.
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As Piratecat said, lets not continue with this.
lutecius
Explorer
yeah sorry about that. I left the page open and forgot to refresh before posting so i missed the warning.
