Monks and 2 weapon fighting

[focallength]

Ok heres a question for all you rules lawyers out there. If a monk takes the two weapon fighting feat, will this allow him (her) an extra attack when using flurry of blows? The two weapon fighting feat allowing an "off-hand" attack. I know flurry of blows is basically the same thing as 2-weapon fighting just better and this may be splitting hairs. But Im inclined to let a monk use flurry of blows and get an additional off hand attack with 2 weapon fighting. I.E two punches and a off hand kick (or 3-4 kicks and a off hand head butt).

 

[Klaus]

I predict this being moved to the Rules forum quickly...

This has been clarified in the D&D RUles FAQ. Basically, yes, Flurry and TWF stack. You must Flurry as your main weapon (taking the penalty for it) and take the -2 for TWF (with a light weapon).

So a Monk 1 that has TWF and wielded 2 kama would have 3 attacks (2 for Flurry and 1 for TWF), each at -4 to hit (-2 Flurry, -2 TWF).

 

[Hypersmurf]

And remember, your off-hand attacks only add .5x Str bonus, unlike your normal Flurry attacks which add 1x.

-Hyp.

 

[Nifelhein]

Anyway, what will really bother you is whether a monk using a reach weapon threatens all squares at 5' and al squares at 10'...

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Anyway, what will really bother you is whether a monk using a reach weapon threatens all squares at 5' and al squares at 10'...

Of course he does.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Of course he does.

With or without TWF penalties?

-Hyp.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

With or without TWF penalties?

Without, of course.

Unless, during his previous turn, he decided to "fight this way" - gaining extra attacks from the Two-Weapon Fighting rules. We've been over this, haven't we?

 

[Hypersmurf]

Unless, during his previous turn, he decided to "fight this way" - gaining extra attacks from the Two-Weapon Fighting rules.

Ah, 'fight this way' rears its ugly head again.

I see no requirement for you to take the extra attack to be fighting this way. Just like you don't have to get a +2 flanking bonus to be flanking, right?

We've been over this, haven't we?

Oh, repeatedly

-Hyp.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Ah, 'fight this way' rears its ugly head again.

I see no requirement for you to take the extra attack to be fighting this way. Just like you don't have to get a +2 flanking bonus to be flanking, right?

A touch! A palpable touch!

To analogize, "Using the TWF rules to gain extra attacks = Fighting this way" is, to my mind, the "line test."

 

[Hypersmurf]

A touch! A palpable touch!

To analogize, "Using the TWF rules to gain extra attacks = Fighting this way" is, to my mind, the "line test."

Whereas to me, 'wielding a second weapon in your off-hand' is the line test, and 'gain an extra attack with that weapon' is the +2 bonus. It's available, but you're not required to avail yourself of it.

-Hyp.