D&D General My "Perfect D&D" Would Include...

[Stormonu]

Yet measurements were in inches. So...

It would be exceedingly hard to get a concensus on how people played in general. I know plenty of people that used minis seriously in AD&D and others that ran 3.x TotM.

Yeah, I used minis (or tokens, or dice) extensively in 2E during games to avoid arguments about positioning all the time. Hell, I had my first set of D&D minis (Grenadier) days after I got the Holmes D&D set, and used them quite regularly.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

It is interesting what feel a little controversial (hanging in around 50%). Stuff like Kingdom rules and complex fighters and random treasure and even grid based combat.

What's really funny is WotC has this "70% approval" deal, and if they did this survey, only Skills would make it, which means the next would basically cut everything except Skill mechanic lol.

Even if they dropped it to 60% out of panic, they'd still only have the five things I listed lol, which would be a hell of thing. I'm trying to think what RPG that might be most like, probably one of the more modern OSRs?

 

[Vaalingrade]

The reason I ask is that D&D has some genuinely sacred cows (such as the six ability scores and nine alignments) that I think have to be there or it isn't D&D, but which a non-D&D game shouldn't emulate.

Most of D&D doesn't have the 9 alignments.

 

[messy]

1e art
2e multiclassing
3e options
4e balance
5e simplicity

 

[Reynard]

1e art
2e multiclassing
3e options
4e balance
5e simplicity

I feel like these two are at odds.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

1e art
2e multiclassing
3e options
4e balance
5e simplicity

Not asking for much are you lol? But I guess we did say perfect.

I think could probably do all of that except 3E options in one game though. 3E options makes 4E balance and 5E simplicity impossible though.

 

[delericho]

Most of D&D doesn't the the 9 alignments.

That really depends on how you count.

But fair enough - rather than "the 9 alignments" feel free to read it as "alignment". My argument remains the same: D&D probably needs it; a D&D-like game would be better without.

 

[Reynard]

Not asking for much are you lol? But I guess we did say perfect.

I think could probably do all of that except 3E options in one game though. 3E options makes 4E balance and 5E simplicity impossible though.

It would be work, but I think you could get balance, but at the cost of simplicity.

 

[payn]

Not asking for much are you lol? But I guess we did say perfect.

I think could probably do all of that except 3E options in one game though. 3E options makes 4E balance and 5E simplicity impossible though.

I think PF2 threaded the needle on that one myself. Of course, the simplicity comes in automation so maybe with an asterisk.

 

[Scribe]

Aren't those two somewhat in contradiction of each other?

Think more subsystem of epic/mythic levels in parallel.