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5E Mythic Odysseys of Theros Reviews

Did you, or will you, buy Mythic Odysseys of Theros


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doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Yeah, we could have Nymphs as a race. Dryads, Hamadryads, Oreads, so on.
They should've done more subclasses.
An Oracle as a subclass could be cool.
I do think Oracle works better outside the class structure, or using the Divination Cleric.

But fighter subclass for the blessed warrior and rogue subclass for the lucky hero type would have been much more welcome from me than the Paladin option they put in. I just...how is that even a Paladin?
 



Parmandur

Legend
Eh, I don’t see it that way I see it, but I don’t wanna get into a whole thing over it.

on races, though, they could have included a dryad playable race.

I wouldn’t have been sad at a demi-god option in there, as well, unless I missed one.
I think demi-god would have been a good Background option. Multiple of the Supernatural Gifts can be used to simulate demigod status, and the actual in Setting Demigods are used as PC examples in the text it seems. For Theros, being a demigod might be something earned through being high level and extremely pious, an apotheosis rather than an origin...
 

Parmandur

Legend
(Just want to point out that we have no statement for WotC saying that any of the UA playtested around the time of the Theros subclasses UA were intended for Theros in any way.)
Twilight Cleric and the Returned...I mean, Received Rogue certainly were meant for Theros, logically, and it is simple enough to see they tested more than 2 for this book.
 

Parmandur

Legend
I do think Oracle works better outside the class structure, or using the Divination Cleric.

But fighter subclass for the blessed warrior and rogue subclass for the lucky hero type would have been much more welcome from me than the Paladin option they put in. I just...how is that even a Paladin?
I recall from the UA discussion that this Paladin was conceived as a Fighter Subclass, sort of a Divine Eldritch Knight styled after Achilles, but evolved into a Paladin Subclass fairly quickly.

And the Revived Rogue looks to have been just such a lucky, literally death-defying archetype... didn't click quite, though.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I recall from the UA discussion that this Paladin was conceived as a Fighter Subclass, sort of a Divine Eldritch Knight styled after Achilles, but evolved into a Paladin Subclass fairly quickly.

And the Revived Rogue looks to have been just such a lucky, literally death-defying archetype... didn't click quite, though.
Not really what I suggested, on either count.

The idea of Achilles as anything like a Paladin is weird to me, but even if they’d kept it as a fighter it wouldn’t have fit what I’m saying is missing. The champion is closer, though it also doesn’t get there.

The revived just...absolutely wasn’t a “lucky hero”, though. That is a stretch, to me.

I’d focus the fighter archetype on athleticism and incredible feats of prowess, maybe choosing 1 or 2 ability scores and gaining short rest abilities based on the choice. abilities would be stuff like incredible feats of strength (you can lift, carry, push, or pull, double the normal amount for X time, etc) or incredible cleverness (harder to think of distinct abilities).

The rogue would get expanded weaponry and a shield, and maybe some ribbon benefit with slings, and some kind of benefit to solving riddles and pulling tricks on people. Maybe a bonus when going up against bigger threats.
 

Do we know how many pages this is. Eberron spoiled us with its 320 something pages.
I have not been able to find a page count anywhere, but I would think it would be about the same as Ravnica.

But something else I found really odd in some of the product descriptions. Where there are product dimensions listed, the book is between 8 1/2 and 9 1/2 inches tall, or at least 1 1/2 inches shorter than every other book. And only about 6 1/2 wide, instead of the normal 8 1/2. That is obviously an error, but how does something like that make it onto multiple websites? lol
 

I think it makes sense for a general "greek hero" subclass to be a paladin, as they're strong and charismatic, but the features don't emulate Greek heroes as much. Heracles was strong, which the first Channel Divinity shows in mechanics, as well as making you better at jumping, which is also accurate. The thing I don't like about the second channel divinity is that no greek heroes have anything similar to this. You don't smite someone with divine power and heal other people in greek myths. You can smite people with divine power harder than anyone else, though, which is why I preferred the UA version of this specific Channel Divinity.

The aura also seems weird. Greek heroes are fast, but they don't make other people fast.

The last two abilities of the paladin I'm fine with, they feel hero-esque.
 

I recall from the UA discussion that this Paladin was conceived as a Fighter Subclass, sort of a Divine Eldritch Knight styled after Achilles, but evolved into a Paladin Subclass fairly quickly.
I don't remember hearing that anywhere. I would like a Radiant Knight archetype for fighters that's like a paladin, but without spells, but I don't think we'd see that in 5e.
 










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