Need Info on the Yuuzhan Vong

[warlord]

One of my players wants me to run an all Vong NJO campaign but sadly I know next to nothing about them. I only know what the RCRB told so any info on how they were exiled from the Force and why they were. Also why they hate technology so much.

P.S. How did Boba Fett assemble a group of Mandalorian hunters I thought they were all dead.

 

[Truth Seeker]

One of my players wants me to run an all Vong NJO campaign but sadly I know next to nothing about them. I only know what the RCRB told so any info on how they were exiled from the Force and why they were. Also why they hate technology so much.

P.S. How did Boba Fett assemble a group of Mandalorian hunters I thought they were all dead.

Okay, a couple of things you can do, read the novels that dealt with the Vong(like all of them), or you can buy the Revised Star Wars Roleplaying book that has them in it.

*this is just off the top of my head, at work, no books around*

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

One of my players wants me to run an all Vong NJO campaign but sadly I know next to nothing about them. I only know what the RCRB told so any info on how they were exiled from the Force and why they were. Also why they hate technology so much.

P.S. How did Boba Fett assemble a group of Mandalorian hunters I thought they were all dead.

Honestly, reading the books is best, especially since more and more is divulged as the series goes on. But, try this...check out this section of TheForce.net for some good information:

http://www.theforce.net/books/unjoh/database/

Also, though it isn't completely explained where Fett got the other Mandolorians. I'm pretty sure he trained them himself. Really, he is the last Mandolorian, and it was only a quick moment that we find out about them.


EDIT: Um...nevermind that link. Most of the sections are "Coming Soon". You can try http://www.njoe.com/ for a brief overview. Not much, but its something.

 

[mojo1701]

The New Jedi Order Sourcebook. Everything from the first half of the series (up to Star by Star, when

Spoiler

the Yuuzhan Vong take Coruscant

). It's still in OCR rules, but it's still good. I think there's a vol.2 coming out, but I'm not sure.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

The New Jedi Order Sourcebook. Everything from the first half of the series (up to Star by Star, when

Spoiler

the Yuuzhan Vong take Coruscant

). It's still in OCR rules, but it's still good. I think there's a vol.2 coming out, but I'm not sure.

No word on anything until Revenge of the Sith at this point...I'd love a "revised" NJO Sourcebook of sorts, but I almost doubt we'll get one anytime soon...

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

Well, they have a significant advantage in that the Republic is stupid.

Not that the Yuuzhan Vong are the smartest, but the Republic, so far as I can tell, is hindered by gross stupidity and colossal ill luck. I mean, apparently, from the NJO sourcebook, they're consolidating shipbuilding at one or two shipyards instead of filling every existing slip in the galaxy with warships. And, given how fast you can travel through hyperspace, even in a x4 hyperdrive, refugees should be able to make it all the way across the galaxy with no problem. Sigh...

Brad

 

[The_Universe]

My advice is to avoid the NJO at all costs. The Vong are a villain that deserved (maybe) 3 books, but instead took years and dozens of novels to finish.

The Vong take everything that make star wars unique, and crush it beneath their bio-engineered pain-worshipping boots.

Please don't subject your players to this. For my sake...

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

My advice is to avoid the NJO at all costs. The Vong are a villain that deserved (maybe) 3 books, but instead took years and dozens of novels to finish.

The Vong take everything that make star wars unique, and crush it beneath their bio-engineered pain-worshipping boots.

Please don't subject your players to this. For my sake...

...and then there's those of us with the point of view that while the Vong aren't the best thing to happen to Star Wars, it at least put a cohesive grasp on the EU, and grew into more and more interesting villains as time went on. Unifying Force was one of the best Star Wars books I've read(next to Thrawn Trilogy, Hand of Thrawn Duology, and the X-Wing Books).

And Nom Anor in particular is something special in Star Wars. An almost sympathetic...villain? He's everywhere and no where on the board, switching sides whenever it pleases him. Great stuff, really.

...now, I can understand not liking the Vong, etc, but how did it take 'everything that made Star Wars unique, and crush it'?

 

[The_Universe]

Mostly becaue of its blatant disregard for much loved characters (and uneven inclusion thereof - Lando's a hero! Lando doesn't exist!), and heavy handed plotting that essentially deadened the thing that sets star wars apart from any other sort of soft-science space opera like star trek - the Jedi.

Combine that with an overarching metaplot that takes the less unique (but just as interesting) parts of the star wars universe (like its well-developed criminal underworld) and marginalizes it to the point where it may as well not even exist, and you have a series of novels so unsatisfying that they cannot be enjoyed - only suffered through for (exceptionally) brief moments of good writing (like the rogue Vong shamed one who helps Anakin and Tahiri escape).

The dogged insistence of the series' authors that the republic/rebellion never win anything made what could have been a perfectly satisfying and interesting 3 books into a couple of years of ridiculous rebel-bashing. As soon as a tide started to turn, another author would cut in and reset any gained advantage to tell a tale of more losing.

Furthermore, to insist, on top of everything else, the Nom Anor is unique as a sympathetic Star Wars villain is ridiculous. Vader, anyone? Not only does the real thing reek evil in a better way than Nom Anor ever could (or did), but his redemption actually meant something. Nom Anor's switches had nothing to do with his character - in fact, they reveal nothing so much as the inability of the myriad authors of the books to work together to establish a unified personality for any of the characters in the series. Han is an even better reflection of this than Nom Anor!

More than any other work, the NJO suffers from "Too Many Cooks in the Kitchen" Syndrome - all of the above adds up, IMHO, to taking everything that makes Star Wars enjoyable and unique, and crushing it.

Sorry I have to disagree Ankh-morpok, but I loved the expanded universe *until* the NJO. Since it began, I have been increasingly disgusted with the future of star wars. You are (unfortunately) just bearing the brunt of my frustration.

 

[Henry]

One extra note: The New Jedi Order sourcebook is NOT all Original Core Rules; there are parts such as the equipment that jive with the revisions. Kind of like how Field Folio for 3E was "sorta" 3.5 written. It's still a VERY worthwhile book if you are going to run a Yuuzhan Vong RPG.