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Upper_Krust

Adventurer
I wholeheartedly support your idea of going with 5E for the start and then let the helpful community here make the conversion to 3.5. Would hate for you to feel forced into something you clearly don't want to do (getting back to creating 3.5 statblocks) and eventually prefer to give up on the project altogether than hitting your head against this wall over and over again. I'm convinced people here will not mind if you do it this way, especially if it might get done a lot sooner than the other way around.

Keep us posted how the weekend went then (and maybe a teaser or two about what monsters you worked on?)! :)

Hello again amigo! :)

Its not that I don't want to make it 3.5E I just don't think I am still capable. But 5E is SO much simpler it will speed things up (or at the very least not bog things down). I am planning a page in the book that will give brief conversion notes for the monsters into 1st, 3rd and 4th Edition.

First monster I am working on is an Abomination (only one in the book). Its a monster AND a template. Already picked out the poor deity to add the Template to...one of the ones from the partially completed Gods & Monsters pdf, which perfectly complemented this 'thing'.

Entry two I might leave til the end because its ridiculous in multiple ways and might take a bit of extra development time.

The third entry is a Dragon (again only one in the book)...plus a deity that I believe is relevant to this entry and adds a good bit of lore.

Overall the book has 12 entries, 5 of which have 4-5 'independent' monsters (by independent I mean not like the same dragon but different age categories, nor like different sizes of construct, but unique in the way the angels from the Bestiary were unique).
 

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Rhuarc

Explorer
Thanks for that, much appreciated!

So the Alien Gods & Fallen Angels book will have 7 entries with one monster, and 5 entries with 4-5, meaning in total some 30 monsters?

And I can't recall, but did you mean one entry per week, or one monster per week back when you gave an estimate of how quickly you think you'll get things done?
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
Thanks for that, much appreciated!

So the Alien Gods & Fallen Angels book will have 7 entries with one monster, and 5 entries with 4-5, meaning in total some 30 monsters?

And I can't recall, but did you mean one entry per week, or one monster per week back when you gave an estimate of how quickly you think you'll get things done?

Howdy Rhuarc mate! :)

Some of the other entries have 1, 2 or 3 monsters. Lets see what I can get done within the first 4 weeks (officially starting from today lets say).

If I start to get bogged down I can always take out a monster or two.

I think the "one monster per week thing" was for a 3.5E entry where I am also having to do the art. Now I have switched to 5E and I also have an artist doing pencils (before I finish the inks) for the monsters. So its not beyond possibility I could get two standard entries done per week.

But as noted, lets see where we are after say 4 weeks and we can reevaluate.
 

Alzrius

The EN World kitten
Also having a bit of a 'mare' getting back into 3.5E to the extent that I'll probably make the book 5E (which is SO much simpler) and then get someone to help me convert it to 3.5E and make an alternate version available. For me, looking at 3.5E epic stat-blocks now are like trying to decode Hieroglyphics without the Rosetta Stone.
Nuts. I worry about trying to have the community here work out 3.5 translations of what you write for 5E, if for no other reason than design-by-committee tends to be inefficient.
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
Nuts. I worry about trying to have the community here work out 3.5 translations of what you write for 5E, if for no other reason than design-by-committee tends to be inefficient.

Hey Alzrius mate! :)

Well I will have basic conversion notes for all other Editions in the back of the book. If there are any contentious points of further design I guess it only makes sense for me to have the final say on it. Perhaps we could have a thread here (after the book is finished) for the eventual conversions.
 

Drazen

Akalich
Hey all! :)

Mulling over some potential header fonts (the text "Alien Gods & Fallen Angels") for the next book...any thoughts?

Title with Header Font A

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Title with Header font B

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Title with Header font C

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Also I thought I would shorten:

Immortals Handbook, Epic Bestiary - Addendum A: Alien Gods & Fallen Angels

down to just

Epic Bestiary: Alien Gods & Fallen Angels.
I vote for B. It's pretty cool. But so is A.
The last is a little much
 

Drazen

Akalich
Hey Rhuarc buddy! :)

Its going okay. I did spend a bit more time than I wanted sorting out the fonts and general layout. Its been a while since I have used a Publishing program and this is a completely new one (Affinity Publisher). So it took a day or two getting everything right, and I also wanted to go back to the sub-heading font I used in the Epic Bestiary (Not the crazy one from the original pdf that got changed after a week or so, but the font used in the Hardcover print version) but of course I could not find it (nor even remember its name and weirdly my original docs don't show its name if you can believe that) so I had to go with something very similar (after spending literally hours searching for the original font online).

Also having a bit of a 'mare' getting back into 3.5E to the extent that I'll probably make the book 5E (which is SO much simpler) and then get someone to help me convert it to 3.5E and make an alternate version available. For me, looking at 3.5E epic stat-blocks now are like trying to decode Hieroglyphics without the Rosetta Stone.

So initially I'll concentrate on the non-stat parts of the entry to find my feet and get a few monsters typed up this weekend.
And on this note, very well. But just to let you know when the books come out i will be nagging my dm to customize the stats in those books to 3.5 because 5e is simpler...... And I hate simple. I must complicate things, it's in my nature.
So no rush krusty, but don't go TOO long, i hate long waits.

Also, will you include new templates? Or do they not have those in 5e? And on that note, what are the average CRs in these books? Will you have adventures ideas for people in the level 900's and 1000's?
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
I vote for B. It's pretty cool. But so is A.
The last is a little much

Thanks. I have run my tests on Font 'B' and while it looks good in *(relatively big) Headers, it doesn't hold up for the sort of sub-heading sized text you would see in a typical column. I have an alternative in place currently. But I can easily swap in a a new header font if I need to.
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
And on this note, very well. But just to let you know when the books come out i will be nagging my dm to customize the stats in those books to 3.5 because 5e is simpler...... And I hate simple. I must complicate things, it's in my nature.
So no rush krusty, but don't go TOO long, i hate long waits.

Also, will you include new templates? Or do they not have those in 5e? And on that note, what are the average CRs in these books? Will you have adventures ideas for people in the level 900's and 1000's?

Howdy Drazen amigo! :)

I'll do my utmost to make the best book I can in a reasonable amount of time.

...as noted previously there is one monster in the book potentially capable of challenging your party. Its more powerful than the Neutronium Golem.

I will have quite a few new templates (off the top of my head about half a dozen). They do have them in 5E although I think the CR increase determination aspect of 5E Templates is a bit guess-y.

The CRs in the next Bestiary will be mainly in around the CR 20-40 mark with one exception. ;-)

THAT SAID, I have been studying 5E's CR's and I think my monsters are a bit tougher 'pound-for-pound'. In 5E a CR 23-24 monster is supposedly a "Deadly" rated encounter for a Level 20 party. However, reading the various testimonies about this suggests that a "Deadly" encounter would be more akin to CR 30 (ie. Tiamat). I'm thinking my CR 23-24 monsters WILL represent a deadly challenge. So when I have something that is CR 38 (or whatever) you are simply not going to be beating it with Level 20 characters (regardless of epic boons). Which raises the question of what ARE you going to be able to beat that CR 38 monster with. ;)

The monsters will all have Adventure Ideas for use below, at...and above their level - just like the first Bestiary. So in that regard only Monster 'x' will have ideas for in and around the Level 900's (a converted to 3.5E Level 900 that would be).
 

Rhuarc

Explorer
Hey UK!

I believe we have now reached the halfway mark of the 4 weeks you mentioned earlier. Any update on how well your progress is going?
Thanks :)
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
Hey UK!

I believe we have now reached the halfway mark of the 4 weeks you mentioned earlier. Any update on how well your progress is going?
Thanks :)
Hey Rhuarc mate,

dammit time flies. :oops:

Well technically I only have the first pass at the first monster completed. However, hear me out. While I had all the monster ideas finalized I realized that I didn't have all the monster powers and USPs determined. So I spent a few days solving those.

One additional hiccup was 'monster 2' has been giving me kittens and to properly design that monster I had to create an entirely new way of designing monsters and creating those (awesome as they are) looks like it will require its own book. In true Krust (foolish) fashion I am now thinking this new book needs to come out first (because it feeds into other things).

However, don't panic I have probably only 'spent' about 1 week proper on Alien Gods & Fallen Angels and that book will definitely come out and you'll love it. But give me 2 weeks to work on this new book and lets see what I have. Its going to be amazing (but no spoilers just yet). ;)
 

Rhuarc

Explorer
Hey UK,

well, that's the thing, isn't it? Almost all of your ideas sound pretty amazing to me, so there is no need for you to sell me on this :)
But after the initial batch of books (and the one Vampire Bestiary couple of years back) nothing ever saw the light of day. You certainly have this 'issue' to be distracted and sidetracked by other things when you are working on something, spent more time than planned on this, then something else comes up which eats more time and round and round we go...

As a creator myself (even though not published or anything close), I know what you mean if you say you want to do this in the right order. But given your track record, wouldn't it be more sensible to maybe put 'monster 2' on hold for a later time and first try to at least finish one book before already working on a second one? You can always come back to this new idea and flesh it out then?

Anyway, you will follow your own plan and path as always, and I'm definitely already happy that you are working again on RPG stuff, but I can only shake my head and say 'well, here we go again' to these news...sorry :confused:

For now I can at least come back here every two weeks and poke you again, but the newly kindled hope may fade pretty quickly if nothing comes of this. Fingers crossed and I really, really hope you can manage to pull through in the end. I mean, it must be frustrating for yourself as well to spend ours working on this and no one else ever sees what you have come up with, not to speak of the potential waste of money that you could earn (even if it won't be very much I reckon).

Good luck!
 

Alzrius

The EN World kitten
On an unrelated note, U_K, was there ever a print version of Ascension? I was flipping through my hardcover copy of the Epic Bestiary Vol. 1 the other day, and thought how nice it would be to have the companion volume.
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer

Hey Rhuarc amigo, :)

well, that's the thing, isn't it? Almost all of your ideas sound pretty amazing to me, so there is no need for you to sell me on this :)

I appreciate it buddy - I will get these done. I am working hard on them.

But after the initial batch of books (and the one Vampire Bestiary couple of years back) nothing ever saw the light of day.

The market for 4E meant I was at best breaking even at a time when I was not financially independent (as I am now).

After that I went off and tried a few other things.

You certainly have this 'issue' to be distracted and sidetracked by other things when you are working on something, spent more time than planned on this, then something else comes up which eats more time and round and round we go...

I know - its my Achilles Heel to move on to idea two before finishing the first. But this time I have only spent a week on the other book and this second book won't take as long, so its likely not a net loss.

As a creator myself (even though not published or anything close), I know what you mean if you say you want to do this in the right order. But given your track record, wouldn't it be more sensible to maybe put 'monster 2' on hold for a later time and first try to at least finish one book before already working on a second one? You can always come back to this new idea and flesh it out then?

If I had spent more than a few days proper on Alien Gods & Fallen Angels I would have continued on with that project.

Anyway, you will follow your own plan and path as always, and I'm definitely already happy that you are working again on RPG stuff, but I can only shake my head and say 'well, here we go again' to these news...sorry :confused:

I know its demoralizing, but give me a chance here. I have only set on doing these books a few weeks ago.

For now I can at least come back here every two weeks and poke you again, but the newly kindled hope may fade pretty quickly if nothing comes of this. Fingers crossed and I really, really hope you can manage to pull through in the end. I mean, it must be frustrating for yourself as well to spend ours working on this and no one else ever sees what you have come up with, not to speak of the potential waste of money that you could earn (even if it won't be very much I reckon).

This new book only has 6 entries (though they are multi-faceted). I think I'll have the first done within 2 weeks (albeit its the shortest to a small degree). I am hoping this new book is a little bit of a 'game-changer' for epic gaming.

Good luck!

I take all the luck I can get.
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
On an unrelated note, U_K, was there ever a print version of Ascension? I was flipping through my hardcover copy of the Epic Bestiary Vol. 1 the other day, and thought how nice it would be to have the companion volume.

Hey Alzrius mate,

officially there never was. I'd actually like a print copy of that one myself. Does RPGNow have a print on demand service?

I am thinking these new books might be on Amazon's KDP Print.
 





Drazen

Akalich
Thanks Drazen mate, :)

...and don't worry you'll like this new book better.
I better. I did not really like some of the monsters in the Epic Bestiary. I found some quite silly.
Now do not get me wrong, i loved the Amidah, Akalich, Cogent, Golems, and some of the Dragons like the Void and nexus. But i really did not care for the Platinum Dragon and Polychromatic Dragon style. Also, does a Monochromatic Dragon (Grey dragon) Sound good?
But i'm hoping for new types of undead that have some pretty good abilities, reasonable CR's, and handy to add to my list of them. I'm taking your word. You have my complete support. And if i wasn't going to buffets, paying bills, and getting groceries i'd donate to this place.......
 

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