Paul Farquhar
Legend
Solasta doesn't even have the tools that you would need to tell a decent story with real character choices, even with a better writer. In that respect it's a long way behand BG1, and possibly the Gold Box games.
D&D 5E New Baldur's Gate 3 Video
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HaroldTheHobbit
Adventurer
My point was to show that you can make a game with faithful 5E mechanics for very little money, instead of being lazy Larian style and put a shallow 5E varnish on top of an existing non-D&D system with non-D&D mechanics. I have never made any claims that Solasta is a glorious, tripple-A game, merely that the game has working 5E mechanics with a fraction of Larians budget.
Except the game, as true to 5E as the combat is, has zero depth. Not evenly remotely comparable to any of the Infinity Engine games. That's what a coffee budget buys you... you get what you pay for (to reference a point I made to you earlier). Maybe effort spent on a creative director, writers, etc. is where the BG3 time and money budget is going? Do you think that might be the difference between a Solasta and a BG3?
I have no problem if you or others don't agree with my personal views on BG3, but at least try to read my posts in good faith.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
As I pointed out earlier, plenty of D&D games allow interaction with the environment. Larian's approach is not "non-D&D" it just reflects a looser, more narrative style of DMing, as opposed to Solasta's rigid wargamish interpretation. Telling a computer to play RAW is the easier thing to program.
I wish ANY 5E game (current and future) could develop a good system for handling Reactions. Both Solasta and BG3 use absolutely aggravating methods, but I can't think of a better way to handle them outside of some kind of Gambit/Tactics system where you can set up each one by priority along with flags for resources remaining, mooks vs bosses, etc.
Ruin Explorer
Legend
No.
Absolutely not.
You presumably haven't played Cyberpunk 2077.
The cut-scenes are IN FIRST PERSON. There's one early on which features a mirror but that's still not third-person, that's just a mirror like I said!
It's possible one or more of the endings features third-person, because I haven't seen all of them (only one in fact), and please no-one spoil them for me. But certainly nothing before that does. So you need to admit you're straight-up wrong on this. Or name the specific cutscenes where you think a game with amazing artistic commitment to staying in first person, suddenly deviates from that (pretty sure the only reason they even did it with cars is because the car driving controls by release were so bad it was nearly impossible to drive well in first-person - they since totally reworked that).
We can look them up on YouTube mate. This is very easy to prove/disprove, and if you go look, you'll see how wrong you are!
As for "dongs clipping through clothes was because sliders", well, that's not a slider lol, and there very few options too (three to be precise). And no, that was because of their incompetent programming generally. It wasn't "because sliders". There's tons of bad clipping in BG3 too! They actually fixed that disappointingly fast for such a truly hilarious error.
I'd say loads of games are actually better because you can influence the appearance of the main character significantly and I don't think the gaming industry would dispute that.
Let's just be real an admit the artistic choices to do with faces in BG3 are pretty strange. But they're Larian's artistic choices. They're not so bad I'd be asking for my money back, I definitely feel less attached to my character because of the bland-if-real-looking faces I get to pick from, and the low level of customization/individuality.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go read the patch notes for the new BG3 patch so I can go play it once it finishes downloading!
Ruin Explorer
Legend
LOL bloody hell what.
Literally the first thing we learn about the Paladin subclasses they've got - Devotion and Ancients - is that Larian have completely made up new abilities for them!
That's not the best possible start to proceedings I must admit!
Devotion Paladins get "Holy Rebuke" which you put on a target and creatures attacking it take 1d4 damage (hopefully before they swing? Unclear). (This is a little bit like Rebuke the Violent from Redemption Paladins)
Ancients Paladins get some sort of AOE heal called "Healing Radiance" which looks decent-ish.
But is this replacing or in addition to Sacred Weapon/Nature's Wrath respectively, or their Turn abilities? Oh and you can also become an Oathbreaker by making certain conversation choices. Let's pray there's a warning that dialogue options will do that or it'll be autosave before all serious conversations class lol. Oathbreakers get Control Undead, which doesn't function at all like it does in the tabletop, but instead summons an undead and also is a spell not an ability.
Oh Larian...
Literally the first thing we learn about the Paladin subclasses they've got - Devotion and Ancients - is that Larian have completely made up new abilities for them!
That's not the best possible start to proceedings I must admit!
Devotion Paladins get "Holy Rebuke" which you put on a target and creatures attacking it take 1d4 damage (hopefully before they swing? Unclear). (This is a little bit like Rebuke the Violent from Redemption Paladins)
Ancients Paladins get some sort of AOE heal called "Healing Radiance" which looks decent-ish.
But is this replacing or in addition to Sacred Weapon/Nature's Wrath respectively, or their Turn abilities? Oh and you can also become an Oathbreaker by making certain conversation choices. Let's pray there's a warning that dialogue options will do that or it'll be autosave before all serious conversations class lol. Oathbreakers get Control Undead, which doesn't function at all like it does in the tabletop, but instead summons an undead and also is a spell not an ability.
Oh Larian...
Scribe
Legend
This is what I'm talking about. Got a link so I can fully tilt myself???
Just put the game in Larian, and let players go wild with custom 'mods' so I dont have to play someone's homebrew.
I dont want to play Larians version of 5e, I just want to play 5e.
Ruin Explorer
Legend
Relevant to this thread and buried in the patch notes:
EDIT - They added a different new one for Half-Elf females too. It may be my new favourite for those, even more than the "cute idiot with enormous ears" which I was rolling with before.
People are saying they added new hairstyles but I haven't noticed which ones.
- Added female human and elf heads to Character Creation.
EDIT - They added a different new one for Half-Elf females too. It may be my new favourite for those, even more than the "cute idiot with enormous ears" which I was rolling with before.
People are saying they added new hairstyles but I haven't noticed which ones.
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Scribe
Legend
I can add highlights, and grey's now, not sure when they added that.
Gradine
Final Form (she/they)
I would be... nervous to see how that would play out in TYOOL 2023
DarkCrisis
Legend
Revealed that Matt Mercer will be voicing Minsc.
While he's a fine VA and I know he loves D&D and Baldurs Gate... like Jim Cummings (the original Minsc VA) is still active and would have apparently liked to have come back for the role....
While he's a fine VA and I know he loves D&D and Baldurs Gate... like Jim Cummings (the original Minsc VA) is still active and would have apparently liked to have come back for the role....
EzekielRaiden
Legend
He makes me think of Prince Charming from Shrek.
Aw, that's unfortunate. I have nothing against Mercer but Jim Cummings did a great job.
Ruin Explorer
Legend
Those are both last patch.
Ruin Explorer
Legend
Without getting into Cummings, he's, uhhh, had some issues. Plenty of people still work with him, he's not fully cancelled or whatever, but if you're forward-looking you might want to avoid that changing in future. So Mercer is probably a safe bet.
DarkCrisis
Legend
Well now I want to know
Ruin Explorer
Legend
I'm not putting it in the thread to derail it but just do the classic Google search of "Jim Cummings controversy" and scroll slightly.
Also wow Matt Mercer was Eder in Pillars of Eternity? Holy hell that was a great voice.
Also wow Matt Mercer was Eder in Pillars of Eternity? Holy hell that was a great voice.
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