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[Ruin Explorer]

So name them?

The thing about "conventional wisdom" is it's often wrong. As evidence, I cite Witcher 3, Final Fantasy 7, Planescape Torment.

How about Oblivion, Skyrim (which alone has sold more copies than all three of those put together, I suspect lol), Fallout 3, Fallout: NV, Fallout 4, Saint's Row 1/2/3/4/etc., Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 1/2/3, Elden Ring (notably Sekiro, that didn't let you create your character, did okay but not as well as some of those), do I need to go on? I've outdone the sales of the games you listed many times over lol.

Planescape Torment sold a really sad number of copies btw. People claiming they played it is like people claiming they were at Woodstock lol. It's also the only game of the three you listed that even LETS you create your character. Like, obviously The Witcher, about Geralt, has a fixed face, gender, basic personality, bodyshape, and so on. It's weird to even mention that. I note the next major/main Witcher game, the one with the Lynx medallion teaser, will full feature full character generation because CDPR believe that's the way of the future.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Should note the accusations against Cummings where from his ex wife during a custody battle, where they were both saying bad things about each other. And Investigators found the accusations to be unsubstituted. The wife did not press any charges or bring that stuff up anywhere but the custody trial.

Go read the article. The one he definitely admits to is totally messed-up (re: the puppy). He literally admitted to it. Most people aren't like, keen on people who hurt pets.

Anyone who thinks that's "fine" is not someone I'd want to hang out with.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Oblivion, Skyrim

These are more games that you never really see your character. Would they really have not sold if they had more limited character appearance customisation?

Fallout 3, Fallout: NV

Fallout3 was rubbish, and again you don't see your character so it doesn't matter what they look like.

I note the next major/main Witcher game, the one with the Lynx medallion teaser, will full feature full character generation because CDPR believe that's the way of the future.

They also thought releasing a game full of massive bugs was a good idea. So I can see why they might think doing the thing other companies had already done and moved on from might be the way of the future.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

These are more games that you never really see your character. Would they really have not sold if they had more limited character appearance customisation?

LOL.

Yeah. You never see your character. ROFL. That's why we see countless screenshots of people's characters, and why Nexus Mods has LITERALLY TENS OF THOUSANDS of mods to do with the appearance of your character, some of which people have been working on

Could it possibly be that there's some kind of simple button that puts you in third person view? Could it be that loads of people use it all the time (unlike the clunky as hell photo mod for 2077, but 2077 has not-bad chargen for sure)? Could it be you even play the game that way?

Never see your character... pull the other one mate, it's got bells on.

Fallout3 was rubbish

No dispute there, it's absolute crap! But it's immaterial innit, because it sold several times as many copies as PS:T. FO4 sold like literally 20x more or something.

Oh what's one of the most famous images in FO4? Oh it's intro where you're designing the face you'll supposedly "never see", yet is in dozens and dozens of screenshots from FO4 on my drive!

PS I did better than the generic face shown here.

They also thought releasing a game full of massive bugs was a good idea. So I can see why they might think doing the thing other companies had already done and moved on from might be the way of the future.

I mean, more of an attempted burn than a successful one, but I do appreciate the effort.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

LOL.
[bunch of other angry nonsense]

Could you maybe take a deep breath and relax? You are a human talking to other humans.

 

[Bill Zebub]

But in actual D&D, you only create one character, not the whole party.

Ummm…BG3 also isn’t actual D&D.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Go read the article. The one he definitely admits to is totally messed-up (re: the puppy). He literally admitted to it. Most people aren't like, keen on people who hurt pets.

Anyone who thinks that's "fine" is not someone I'd want to hang out with.

I read that. He put a puppy in a tub then forgot about it for a while. Once reminded he got the dog and there were no ill effects. He was trying out some dog discipline advice he had heard. I read the articles and everything that followed.

 

[Scribe]

Ummm…BG3 also isn’t actual D&D.

Isnt that that truth...

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Isnt that that truth...

It’s a good game that follows the systems pretty faithfully, like BG1 and 2 did.

 

[Scribe]

It’s a good game that follows the systems pretty faithfully, like BG1 and 2 did.

I havent played it since maybe patch 4, still havent run around yet with the Paladin, but it didnt seem very faithful back when I put in some testing.

I prefer this meme for how I feel about it.

 

[vecna00]

I havent played it since maybe patch 4, still havent run around yet with the Paladin, but it didnt seem very faithful back when I put in some testing.

I prefer this meme for how I feel about it.

So it is very much a D&D game through and through!

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Ummm…BG3 also isn’t actual D&D.

True that, and I've nothing against "create your party" CRPGs. Despite it's flaws I think Solasta is great, and Icewind Dale. I'm just pointing out that they are no more "authentically D&D" than CRPGs where you create one player character.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

It’s a good game that follows the systems pretty faithfully, like BG1 and 2 did.

I assume this comment is sarcasm.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Update - Darth Reaver has fallen to the dark side by killing the tieflings who have captured the gith. Comes with a cut scene and all, a bit better than BG1, when Edwin accidently fireballed a bunch of civilians.

Oathbreaker abilities (to level 3):

Spoiler

Level 1:
Spiteful Suffering (1d4+CHA necrotic damage for 3 rounds + advantage when attacking the target)
Level 3:
Dreadful Aspect
Control Undead

All use a "Channel Oath Charge" AKA Channel Divinity

Plus bonus spells: Hellish Rebuke and Inflict Wounds

Aside from the extra level 1 ability, the same as the DMG.

Also looks like you can undo Oathbreaker if you want.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I read that. He put a puppy in a tub then forgot about it for a while. Once reminded he got the dog and there were no ill effects. He was trying out some dog discipline advice he had heard. I read the articles and everything that followed.

Jesus christ mate. That's animal abuse, plain and simple. You ever touched a metal bucket that's out in 100f heat? You can't just torture animals because someone told you it was okay, he's an adult not a small child (and it clearly wasn't any kind of professional who told him, if anyone did, it seems more likely he just made it up).

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Also looks like you can undo Oathbreaker if you want.

I suspect playing a non-Oathbreaker Paladin until the Enhanced Edition will mean keeping 2000gp in your pocket at all times for this. Talk about pay to play! (Or a lot of quicksave/quickload I guess lol).

Right now, you get broken oaths really easily for absolute nonsense due to how lazily flagged the game is - loads of hostile NPCs are flagged as innocents, including the goblin who is actively torturing a gnome (!!!) - and Ancients Paladins seem to be held, bizarrely, to Devotion Paladin standards. It's particularly enraging when you get attacked, defend yourself, and then get "oathbreaker". It's also inconsistent, because it seems like it's maybe killing-blow-based, like if you last-hit a goblin that's mis-flagged (as some are), you get it, but if another party member does the last hit, you don't, even though the outcome is the same.

It really sounds like Oathbreaker will be the only sane choice at this point. Given how Larian haven't acknowledged this issue, and their history with bugs in DOS1/2, I would guess this will stay with us for a very, very long time lol. I was intending to play a Paladin first run but I suspect not unless Larian acknowledge this and promise to fix it.

Kudos on locating the exact first moment in the game where you can be an Oathbreaker lol. Those poor Tieflings are seeing a lot of angry people with hammers right now!

Control Undead is a spell that lets you summon an undead rather than, er, controlling undead I note, in BG3.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Jesus christ mate. That's animal abuse, plain and simple. You ever touched a metal bucket that's out in 100f heat? You can't just torture animals because someone told you it was okay, he's an adult not a small child (and it clearly wasn't any kind of professional who told him, if anyone did, it seems more likely he just made it up).

It was not a bucket. I read the article.

Anyway I don't want to talk about this off topic thing anymore. Lets agree to drop it for now.

I assume this comment is sarcasm.

Nope. I am entirely serious. BG 1 and 2 also had some breaks from 2e D&D.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

I suspect playing a non-Oathbreaker Paladin until the Enhanced Edition will mean keeping 2000gp in your pocket at all times for this. Talk about pay to play! (Or a lot of quicksave/quickload I guess lol).

Right now, you get broken oaths really easily for absolute nonsense due to how lazily flagged the game is - loads of hostile NPCs are flagged as innocents, including the goblin who is actively torturing a gnome (!!!) - and Ancients Paladins seem to be held, bizarrely, to Devotion Paladin standards. It's particularly enraging when you get attacked, defend yourself, and then get "oathbreaker". It's also inconsistent, because it seems like it's maybe killing-blow-based, like if you last-hit a goblin that's mis-flagged (as some are), you get it, but if another party member does the last hit, you don't, even though the outcome is the same.

It really sounds like Oathbreaker will be the only sane choice at this point. Given how Larian haven't acknowledged this issue, and their history with bugs in DOS1/2, I would guess this will stay with us for a very, very long time lol. I was intending to play a Paladin first run but I suspect not unless Larian acknowledge this and promise to fix it.

Kudos on locating the exact first moment in the game where you can be an Oathbreaker lol. Those poor Tieflings are seeing a lot of angry people with hammers right now!

Control Undead is a spell that lets you summon an undead rather than, er, controlling undead I note, in BG3.

The tenets are on your starting Armor. Here is Devotion for example.

Honesty. Don’t lie or cheat. Let your word be your promise.

Courage. Never fear to act, though caution is wise.

Compassion. Aid others, protect the weak, and punish those who threaten them. Show mercy to your foes, but temper it with wisdom.

Honor. Treat others with fairness, and let your honorable deeds be an example to them. Do as much good as possible while causing the least amount of harm.

Duty. Be responsible for your actions and their consequences, protect those entrusted to your care, and obey those who have just authority over you.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

The tenets are on your starting Armor. Here is Devotion for example.

Doesn't really matter if the game doesn't actually follow them oathbreak-wise, does it? I note almost no-one has spotted that, on the subreddit. People are still mystified as to what the tenets are, so I've been telling them.

God knows what they'll do when Vengeance Paladins arrive.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

I have yet to have any trouble with my Oath.