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New D&D Movie: July 23rd 2021

It's official - the new Dungeons & Dragons movie is coming, and it's coming in four years - July 23rd, 2021, as announced by Paramount.

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We already know that the movie will be produced by the Lego Movie's Roy Lee, that it will be directed by Rob Letterman (Goosebumps, Monsters vs. Aliens, Shark Tale). Originally scripted by David Leslie Johnson (Wrath of the Titans), it's now being written by Joe Manganelio, might be Dragonlance and then again might feature the Yawning Portal, and will adopt a Guardians of the Galaxy tone. Oh, and that we should take everything I just said with a pinch of salt as the movie appears have jumped from WB to Paramount at some point in the process!
 
Russ Morrissey

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robus

Lowcountry Low Roller
Just thinking about this project and I do think that it would benefit from a narrator, acting as the voice of the DM, but also letting the audience know that this is a fable, introducing the characters in a manner that humanizes them and situates the viewer in the story so far...
 
I will admit I have not fully read through this thread, but if you want a good template for a D&D movie look at the Fast and Furious movies. You have a multi racial/ gender team with different skills having large action set pieces (encounters ) with over the top action.
 
I thought Jackson's King Kong was paced just right. I also never bought into the the drow as elves with skin the colour of black paint. They have always been dark grey to me, and I think dark grey goes far better with white hair and purple raiments than does pure black.

In any case, I do kind of think that if you want to do a D&D movie right one of the places you do not skimp under any circumstances is in hiring the best costume designer you can find, period. Costumes are not supposed to be just faux medieval, but they have to have both familiarity and their own style.

I have mentioned before in these discussions that I think Forgotten Realms is one of those places where it actually might make sense to go with the old "human from Earth crosses over into a fantasy setting" trope since that is literally what the "forgotten" in "Forgotten Realms" stands for. Ahem.

Have a protagonist who is a journalist in our world and crosses over. One of the first plot points is that her camera (or cell phone) breaks so that it is immediately apparent that if she finds her way back there will be no photo or video evidence of her claims. This gives the plot an allegorical basis on which you can then build out what is fantastic, mysterious, and sinister about the world. Probably do not borrow too much style or tone from Blade Runner 2049, but keep that movie in mind as well as Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor: Ragnarok. Because you will never, ever, get a magical world right if you think only in terms of "What is the plot line I want to film?" and not "What is the cinematic experience I want to deliver?"
Is there going to be a little gnome like character called "Dungeon Master?"



Would you want a movie about them?
Why a journalist anyway?
If the journalist is smart, he could make a camera with available equipment in the Forgotten Realms, you just need to know something about photochemical reactions, and how to make paper, film, and a box with a hole in it.

Are you familiar with these books?

I am going to be real interested to see what happens with Jumanji, because regardless if that movie is good or bad I think it will offer at least a lesson or two for a future D&D film. I mean, Christ, in the trailer they literally talk about each character like they have a character class. Which would be really bad to do explicitly in a D&D movie but it does mean you can look at those characters and pretend they are playing d20 Modern or something.
 
All this may be true, but Michael Bay movies still suck however, which is not something I'd want for any potential future D&D movie....
Movies Michael Bay directed before he started on the Transformers franchise: Bad Boys, Bad Boys II, Armageddon, The Rock, Pearl Harbor, The Island. So everything he has directed sucks? He has also produced, though not directed, a bunch of horror movies.

Basically, if he is the director, is he doing it Transformers-style or his older style?
 

Dannyalcatraz

Moderator
Staff member
Movies Michael Bay directed before he started on the Transformers franchise: Bad Boys, Bad Boys II, Armageddon, The Rock, Pearl Harbor, The Island. So everything he has directed sucks? He has also produced, though not directed, a bunch of horror movies.

Basically, if he is the director, is he doing it Transformers-style or his older style?
Personally, there’s only one movie on that list I liked.
 

Azzy

Explorer
Movies Michael Bay directed before he started on the Transformers franchise: Bad Boys, Bad Boys II, Armageddon, The Rock, Pearl Harbor, The Island. So everything he has directed sucks? He has also produced, though not directed, a bunch of horror movies.

Basically, if he is the director, is he doing it Transformers-style or his older style?
I enjoyed the Rock, but it wasn't really a good movie. Didn't watch Bad Boys, but the rest were crap.
 

Mirtek

Villager
Ah, argumentum ad populum... Millions of people do cocaine, too. Doesn't make any less stupid.
Actually it does, since we are speaking of a pure enterntaiment without any other side effects. So there is only one criteria and that is taste. There are no side effects that are different between spending 2h to watch The Godfather, Citzen Kane or Michael Bay's Transformers unlike between taking cocaine or eating vegetables instead.

With other words: Eat :):):):), millions of flies can't be wrong is actually correct if you are fly 1,000,001. The other flies know in fact what is good for a fly and if you don't then you'll be likely to starve.
 

Azzy

Explorer
Actually it does, since we are speaking of a pure enterntaiment without any other side effects. So there is only one criteria and that is taste. There are no side effects that are different between spending 2h to watch The Godfather, Citzen Kane or Michael Bay's Transformers unlike between taking cocaine or eating vegetables instead.

With other words: Eat :):):):), millions of flies can't be wrong is actually correct if you are fly 1,000,001. The other flies know in fact what is good for a fly and if you don't then you'll be likely to starve.
Then you can go listen to Miley Cyrus (or whatever the newest manufactured pop sensation is), and I can continue listening to better things.
 

TrippyHippy

Villager
You're entitled to your opinion. Thanks for sharing it?

The million/billions ? of people who watch his movies apparently have a different opinion.

But, I've spent way more time than I care on this portion of the topic.
You cannot account for the tastes of audiences that watch them, however - and you cannot account for the millions/billions ? of people who openly think he is the worst moviemaker in the world today.

His name is actually a by-word for crass, artless, noisy and commercialised direction. The D&D brand would be damaged in the association of a movie-maker that carries such animus, and unlike the Transformers brand (which merely needs to make big screen toy adverts), they have actually got to get the general public onside for any future D&D film because of the baggage and negative associations it already has. The D&D brand has to convince the wider market that it's actually a creative, narrative pastime for all ages and genders, and not just something that would appeal to 14 year old boys.
 
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Kaodi

Adventurer
Why a journalist anyway?
If the journalist is smart, he could make a camera with available equipment in the Forgotten Realms, you just need to know something about photochemical reactions, and how to make paper, film, and a box with a hole in it.
If the plot of the movie is so plodding that they have time to worry about making a makeshift camera instead of just trying to stay alive then the movie has an entirely different problem.

The thing is, The Hobbit, and to a lesser extent The Lord of the Rings, already does "country bumpkin" as a means of giving the protagonist a sense of wonder at the events that they find themselves thrust into. Hobbits are petite rural Englishmen. You need heroes that can convey through their reaction that these events and set pieces are exceptional, not merely "Tuesday" in their magical dangerworld, and that are not ignorant rubes.
 

Oofta

Title? I don't need no stinkin' title.
If the plot of the movie is so plodding that they have time to worry about making a makeshift camera instead of just trying to stay alive then the movie has an entirely different problem.

The thing is, The Hobbit, and to a lesser extent The Lord of the Rings, already does "country bumpkin" as a means of giving the protagonist a sense of wonder at the events that they find themselves thrust into. Hobbits are petite rural Englishmen. You need heroes that can convey through their reaction that these events and set pieces are exceptional, not merely "Tuesday" in their magical dangerworld, and that are not ignorant rubes.
It would be interesting to have a party start out at level 1 in game-speak. So many movies the protagonists are already incredibly powerful when they are introduced with little room for growth. So instead of James Bond (or Legolas) level characters, start out with people who grab a sword and whatever armor is lying around to go fight the big bad only to get their butts kicked. Of course you'd have to throw in the mentor who dies tragically at the 3/4 point of the movie.

Hmm ... starting to sound like a certain movie about space wizard. :hmm:
 

Mirtek

Villager
Then you can go listen to Miley Cyrus (or whatever the newest manufactured pop sensation is), and I can continue listening to better things.
No, you can listen to different things. There is no meassure by which they are better except personal taste. It's not like two engines where you can objectively compare certain attributes.
 

robus

Lowcountry Low Roller
It would be interesting to have a party start out at level 1 in game-speak. So many movies the protagonists are already incredibly powerful when they are introduced with little room for growth. So instead of James Bond (or Legolas) level characters, start out with people who grab a sword and whatever armor is lying around to go fight the big bad only to get their butts kicked. Of course you'd have to throw in the mentor who dies tragically at the 3/4 point of the movie.

Hmm ... starting to sound like a certain movie about space wizard. :hmm:
The Hero's Journey is strong in that one!
 
If the plot of the movie is so plodding that they have time to worry about making a makeshift camera instead of just trying to stay alive then the movie has an entirely different problem.

The thing is, The Hobbit, and to a lesser extent The Lord of the Rings, already does "country bumpkin" as a means of giving the protagonist a sense of wonder at the events that they find themselves thrust into. Hobbits are petite rural Englishmen. You need heroes that can convey through their reaction that these events and set pieces are exceptional, not merely "Tuesday" in their magical dangerworld, and that are not ignorant rubes.
The character losing his camera and not being believed when he comes back to his World is straight out of the Wizard of Oz. I don't necessarily think a journalist is the best character to send to the Forgotten Realms, I was thinking more in the lines of a Soldier, or maybe an Engineer, who starts out at first level, but has some talents that if used correctly makes him effectively higher level than that. I think a police officer carrying a service pistol would make things interesting for a while. Someone who is trained in combat, but not the sort of combat that is typical of the Forgotten Realms setting. Naturally a Modern character wouldn't have magic, unless it came in the form of a magic item. One possibility is the character is a Sorcerer, but doesn't know it, maybe because magic doesn't work in his world and his parents or grandparents originally came from the Forgotten Realms, and thus passed down their magical abilities down to him. I think once the person runs out of bullets, he will have to learn how to swing a sword or fire a bow.
 
Now I'm a 12 year old and I'm infatuated with D&D but the problem with all the movies about D&D for me at least is that they are either vastly inappropriate for people my age, or are absolute garbage. I am currently DMing a Ravenloft/Curse of Strahd Campaign, and it would be really cool if they did it on that, but yet again it would likely be garbage, or super inappropriate for a 12 year old. Granted I will be 16 by the time it come out, but my parents are really strict. I'm also reading Dragonlance, just now and it would be also really cool if they did it on that. But movie companies are really good at taking awesome books, and making sub-par to terrible movies. So do you guys think it will be inappropriate, or bad. Then again most of you are likely adults so it probably won't be inappropriate for the rest of you.
 

robus

Lowcountry Low Roller
Just had a brainwave... (if you're listening Hasbro?! ;) )!

If they're looking for a way to give off a D&D feel to a series of movies then I think an excellent way to do that would be to enlist a core group of actors and have them recurrently star in the films. So far so normal... Here's the fun part: dramatically change the theme of each new movie and have the actors play different roles in each one.

So Movie #1: Forgotten Realms based (d'uh)
Movie #2: Ravenloft based (and have one of the heroes in the FR movie play a villain in this one?)
Movie #3: Eberron based (and switch up the roles again)

IMHO it would really reinforce the "you get to play lots of different roles in the worlds of D&D" vibe that I think is important.

And it's super fun to see actors doing new things - it would keep the franchise fresh and yet familiar (and quite distinct from the other ongoing epic series) - and also be a great way to put in witty references to the prior movies.
 

LordEntrails

Explorer
Then you can go listen to Miley Cyrus (or whatever the newest manufactured pop sensation is), and I can continue listening to better things.
Which is close to my point. You want (reasonably so) a D&D movie that fits your tastes. Tastes that you pretty much insist are in a very small minority. A minority that you should not expect Hasbro to care about in the least. This is a commercial money making venture for them, they should and will follow a formulaic approach to the movie that they hope will yield the most profit for the D&D brand. For them to do anything less would be negligent to their shareholders.

You cannot account for the tastes of audiences that watch them, however - and you cannot account for the millions/billions ? of people who openly think he is the worst moviemaker in the world today.
Nice exaggeration. This will be my last attempt to add reason to your emotional rants.

The vague number of people I referred to that have watched MB movies can actually be estimated reliable using hard numbers like this.

You "one-upping" me by going to millions/billions is absurd. And rather than supporting your point, supports that you are spewing emotional responses that you haven't even thought through. Or do you really want us to expect that 1 in 7 people in the WORLD think MB is the worst moviemaker? If so, please provide some fact based support.
[MENTION=6563]Azzy[/MENTION] & [MENTION=27252]TrippyHippy[/MENTION], If you want a movie that conforms to your tastes, then go invest your own time in money in such. If you are right, then the critics will love it and you might even turn a profit.

Or you could accept that what you want is of little important to Hasbro and your continued voicing of it and how bad MB is will have no real impact on the world.

I'm done.
 

Kaodi

Adventurer
The character losing his camera and not being believed when he comes back to his World is straight out of the Wizard of Oz. I don't necessarily think a journalist is the best character to send to the Forgotten Realms, I was thinking more in the lines of a Soldier, or maybe an Engineer, who starts out at first level, but has some talents that if used correctly makes him effectively higher level than that. I think a police officer carrying a service pistol would make things interesting for a while. Someone who is trained in combat, but not the sort of combat that is typical of the Forgotten Realms setting. Naturally a Modern character wouldn't have magic, unless it came in the form of a magic item. One possibility is the character is a Sorcerer, but doesn't know it, maybe because magic doesn't work in his world and his parents or grandparents originally came from the Forgotten Realms, and thus passed down their magical abilities down to him. I think once the person runs out of bullets, he will have to learn how to swing a sword or fire a bow.
Been a while since I have seen The Wizard of Oz. I can tell you for sure thought that a soldier or engineer or anyone with a gun would be a terrible idea. The character is not their to change the world through technology. They are there to experience it. To be on the playing field, not change the playing field.

I had an idea yesterday that would probably be horrible because it is not in the true spirit of D&D which is orphaned murderhobos. Have the main character be a mother with a sick child who needs magical healing or they will die. The healers cannot or will not perform the service for free, since it is complicated and involved, so she opts for the "get rich quick or die trying" world of adventuring and joins/starts a "party". Before she had a kid she was in fact an apprentice to a scholarly wizard, so she she knows some things and she has some skills but what she can do semi-reliably is pretty basic, especially since she is out of practice as components are not cheap.
 

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