Of course they don't; please save the pedantic and daft (talk about reaching for the stars...).
D&D 5E New D&D Next Playtest package is up (19/9/2013) [merged threads]
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Of course they don't; please save the pedantic and daft (talk about reaching for the stars...).
No race has penalties.
My biggest peeve is with the Tielfing: Hellish Resistance and Infernal Wrath, so they have gone back to the lame, homogenised all Tieflings are of Devil descent malarkey...
...and Half-Orcs get Proficiency on Cha checks...
...and Half-Orcs get Proficiency on Cha checks...
Salamandyr
Adventurer
Personally, I find humans as written to be on the weak side. Their special ability looks sexy but really doesn't offer that much. They're still going to be less effective fighters than dwarves, less effective wizards than elves, less effective rogues than halflings, etc.
What they wind up with is marginally better rolls (maybe) on ability checks the character class doesn't care about anyway.
Considering widespread opprobrium, I doubt it will last to the final product though, but until they have nailed down the core, they can't really replace it. It's pretty obviously a filler mechanic. But this is a playtest. Why are we wasting our time getting upset about filler mechanics?
What they wind up with is marginally better rolls (maybe) on ability checks the character class doesn't care about anyway.
Considering widespread opprobrium, I doubt it will last to the final product though, but until they have nailed down the core, they can't really replace it. It's pretty obviously a filler mechanic. But this is a playtest. Why are we wasting our time getting upset about filler mechanics?
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No, they get advantage on checks to Intimidate. Which is as it absolutely should be.
It says "Charisma (Intimidation) Checks", and they have stated Skills will be optional.
the Jester
Legend
That's neither proficiency nor does it apply to all Charisma checks.
Li Shenron
Legend
I don't think it's filler, although I would hope so.
But your post made me think, why are wasting so much time getting upset about mechanics in general, instead of trying to see possible faults in the bigger picture?
For example, my long-time concerns about saving throws being mostly Dex/Con/Wis, with a little bit of Cha/Str and next to no Int at all, is not really so much about actual numbers, but rather the general concern that the game might have dump stats. Unbalanced numbers in spells & monsters ST might actually improve the overall result. I don't actually know because I've played too little to have statistics, but currently my gut feeling is that Intelligence is a dump stat in 5e.
Another problem with the bigger picture for me is character complexity (I'm not talking about scaling group complexity, that is fine, the core rules are very simple). I bought into the general 5e goal of scaling complexity using character choices, so that each player can dial on their PC's complexity, and also bought the specific idea of implementing it through subclasses. However, I don't think they are fully backing up the idea, they are quite doing it, but not as much as they could. To follow the goal, I would expect them to lower the number of class features (which the player cannot choose) and increase the number of subclass features, for instance by moving the most complex class features to subclasses, and then simplify the remaining class features (and then of course also have subclasses with simple features). Instead I think we still have class features that are bothersome to keep track of, which means that after a few levels the game can become boring or annoying to a player who doesn't like to keep track of points, condition-based abilities, reactive abilities etc. and cannot be opted-out if they are class features instead of subclass features.
IOW the baseline complexity for managing your PC is still too high. Even if you play a "Basic" character with the low-complexity subclass chosen by default for you.
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Is it? I mean, apart from Dis/Ad it's the only rule that hasn't changed in any packet, beginning from the very first one. To me they appear very set about that.
That pronouncement appears to be moot with the current iteration. Expertise doesn't work without skills either.
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