WotC New D&D survey from WotC as part of the 50th anniversary year.

[Sulicius]

I would like to remind people that revealing new MtG cards is something WotC does with their community. They give people cards to reveal through social media to generate hype. The people who reveal the cards get additional boost to their engagements. This is a pretty win-win kind of advertisement.

Having someone outside of that agreement is bad for those community members and bad for the company. Of course we don’t care about the company, but I personally find it unfair that these community members had their reveals made uninteresting for their fans. You could say that one person took away the chance for many others to be a part of the reveal season.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

(If you only accept feedback from folks who are already happy, you'll never hear constructive criticism.)

It really depends what you are trying to achieve with your survey.
And the definition of "constructive criticism."

 

[Zardnaar]

The Pinkerton was armed, I believe, but there wasn't any threat of usage or any other sort of physical violence. The only violence was the implication of getting legal action going, which is a real violence. But that violence was avoided by WotC giving the YouTuber free stuff. The result being "the YouTuber was gifted free stuff" is the main reason I have trouble getting indignant about this: if he answered WotC initial communications, he could have gotten free stuff without a visit from a private eye

They're under no obligation to respond to WotC. They literally did nothing wrong or illegal.

 

[Mistwell]

What people probably should do, is stop defending the Pinkertons ...


Just because you might be right in this one case does not mean the thing you think it does.

I know someone who works for the Pinkertons investigation unit. He's a good person, his stories about their investigation department are that they're generally a good group of people, and mostly nerdy. Maybe you should stop attacking them as if they're some 1950s thugs in a movie, since it's obvious your view of them is based on stories rather than direct contact. I think you've managed to dehumanize them a bit in your mind and that's not healthy for views of people you've neve had contact with in your life.

 

[Mistwell]

There are decent people who also are part of the WotC executives. Also some less so.


We all came thru the ap-OGL-ypse.

We all read that weird lawyer letter, and continually weirder followups.

We all saw that bizarre, out-of-touch, coerciveness, and inability to relate to the spirit of the D&D game or its reallife players and contributors.

We know such disregard constitutes some of the WotC Hasbro executive mentality.


This disregard for the rights of a fan, sending Pinkerton to "fix" the situation?


Not everything is wrong. But something isnt right.

You don't however know any of those things about the Pinkertons investigation department. And apparently there is real question if it was a matter of rights of fans concerning that investigation or if there really was something sketchy going on? That part I really don't have any information about at this point other than the one person in this thread saying there was evidence to support it. But I will say this view of the Pinkertons investigators is very fictional in my direct experience.

 

[Mistwell]

No. It’s in his first video and quotes after. It may be false, he may be lying. But it’s a fact. It isn’t rumor.

This kind of rewriting of what is actually documented isn’t great.

It wasn't from my recollection. He said they were big guys, but I don't recall any description matching "goons". And he took down his videos, multiple times, so it's hard to go back and check any of that. You said it's documented, but it's not is it as far as I can find. The guy did in fact change his story a couple of times (maybe with good reason I don't know) and he did take it down and it's not well documented from my look. Do you have a link to what he first said, and then what he said the second time?

 

[Yaarel]

You don't however know any of those things about the Pinkertons investigation department.

In the post you quoted, the criticism is against WotC, namely a decision by one of the executives there. For context of disregard, I am referring to the unnamed person from WotC, when during the ap-OGL-ypse WotC was strong-arming indy creators to sign that horrible contract.

With regard to Pinkerton, I assume WotC hired Pinkerton to find who the leak was. Hiring Pinkerton is a big deal. Newspapers notice when corporations do it.

The problem is with whoever in WotC decided it was a good idea to go after a fan in such a oversized way.

 

[Vaalingrade]

This happens EVERY TIME a new edition is released

But there are no editions anymore. They told us that all through the playtest for the new edition!

 

[Parmandur]

They're under no obligation to respond to WotC. They literally did nothing wrong or illegal.

Nothing the Pinkerton did was illegal, either: WotC is within their rights to pursue their property, and again they decided to trade the guy swag instead of taking him to court.

 

[darjr]

It wasn't from my recollection. He said they were big guys, but I don't recall any description matching "goons". And he took down his videos, multiple times, so it's hard to go back and check any of that. You said it's documented, but it's not is it as far as I can find. The guy did in fact change his story a couple of times (maybe with good reason I don't know) and he did take it down and it's not well documented from my look. Do you have a link to what he first said, and then what he said the second time?

It’s still in the video.

Anyone who shows up at my door and does this? For a private matter? A private citizen? To my innocent wife? Yea. It’s still up. Not a rumor.