Welverein
Villager
It's per MONTH
D&D 5E (2024) New leak looks real bad
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HaroldTheHobbit
Hero
If one paints a worst case scenario for an average DM, one would have 30 bucks sub, plus books, plus a couple of patreons for mapmaking etc, plus minis alt microtransactions for the 3D VTT, etc etc.
The point is it adds up. For many it will still be a cheap hobby, but for others it will be a matter of money if one can afford to play D&D the way WotC intend.
Yes yes, you can still play with three books, dice, pen and paper. But that won't be what WotC will market.
The point is it adds up. For many it will still be a cheap hobby, but for others it will be a matter of money if one can afford to play D&D the way WotC intend.
Yes yes, you can still play with three books, dice, pen and paper. But that won't be what WotC will market.
This is needlessly aggressive. It's a discussion forum, and people are welcome to share their opinions on WotC's offerings. Dial it down a notch, please.
Alzrius
The EN World kitten
Did you miss the part where it was plainly acknowledged that the information is incomplete? And that there's nothing wrong with having opinions on that, so long as you adjust them accordingly when more information is received? We might not know the full spectrum of what's being offered for $30/month, but based on what we know now a lot of people are unsatisfied by that, particularly in conjunction with what's not offered at cheaper plans.
That's an entirely legitimate opinion based on the information available to us now. Saying that we don't know the full scope of what's being offered doesn't mean that we're wrong, it means that we'll change our minds as we learn more.
UngeheuerLich
Legend
If 30€ per month per player is the only subscription option, we will get along without it.
I alsways say that D&D is a cheap hobby. With that it crosses the line and will cause them to lose most of their subscribers.
I don't know if they know basic marketing anymore. Revenue is price*customer - production cost.
It is simple calculus to find out the maximimum... I don't think a customer bas close to zero will cut it.
It will be interesting to see if it's real. I don't get the whole "just wait till Wednesday" bit though.
That said, the price of DDB is absolutely, in no way, like the attempt at revoking the OGL. Companies upping their sub fees is not an assault. Just don't pay it.
That said, the price of DDB is absolutely, in no way, like the attempt at revoking the OGL. Companies upping their sub fees is not an assault. Just don't pay it.
Horwath
Legend
Twilight Imperium 4th Ed + PoK expansion, about 250€.
around 25 games in last year, on average 5 player game, on average 6 hours long.
that is 25, divided by 20, divided by 5, divided by 6, comes down to: 33 cents per hour per player.
and with every game price comes down further.
around 25 games in last year, on average 5 player game, on average 6 hours long.
that is 25, divided by 20, divided by 5, divided by 6, comes down to: 33 cents per hour per player.
and with every game price comes down further.
Heck no.
Point 2 is what I was paying $60/year for with a Master sub, except my players didn't need a paid account. So if we consider the total cost to me and four players, that's $600/year -- a $540 increase.
Point 1 is not worth anywhere near $540/year to me.
