D&D (2024) New One D&D Weapons Table Shows 'Mastery' Traits

The weapons table from the upcoming Unearthed Arcana playtest for One D&D has made its way onto the internet via Indestructoboy on Twitter, and reveals some new mechanics. The mastery traits include Nick, Slow, Puncture, Flex, Cleave, Topple, Graze, and Push. These traits are accessible by the warrior classes.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Rapier is not light, so can't be used in two-weapon fighting. Short sword can.

This is flip-tables worthy foolish of them.

Rapiers are very much a weapon commonly used with an offhand weapon. Totally wild to erase that rather than make shortswords feel quicker somehow or otherwise make them actually feel different.

 

[Parmandur]

This is flip-tables worthy foolish of them.

Rapiers are very much a weapon commonly used with an offhand weapon. Totally wild to erase that rather than make shortswords feel quicker somehow or otherwise make them actually feel different.

With the Feats from the first and second packets, it would work fine. But using a rapier ijbtwo weapon fighting would be a trained part of a build, not automatic.

 

[billd91]

That Graze (damage on a miss) will tick off a whole host of players if its use in 4E was any indication.

Well, it was a bad mechanic then, it'll be a bad mechanic now. I don't see anything changing in the debate.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Also don’t read the comments on those tweets lol


People really love to freak about nothing

 

[doctorbadwolf]

With the Feats from the first and second packets, it would work fine. But using a rapier ijbtwo weapon fighting would be a trained part of a build, not automatic.

IIRC the previous UA feats didn’t allow dual wielding with a rapier, or maybe it was two rapiers. Either way, using a rapier and dagger should be basic for anyone trained with a rapier. It’s literally more common than no offhand in many times and places where rapiers were used.

It’s a mind boggling choice.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Well, it was a bad mechanic then, it'll be a bad mechanic now. I don't see anything changing in the debate.

Yeah because people's opinion on a mechanic has never changed over 2 or 5 or 10 years or more years, right? That's never happened.

Except for all the times in videogames, board games, TTRPGs and so on. Like the hundreds or thousands of times it's happened.

 

[Gradine]

What we really need is an off-hand cloak weapon

 

[Ruin Explorer]

It’s literally more common than no offhand in many times and places where rapiers were used.

[CITATION NEEDED]

That's a hell of a claim. That using a Rapier with an offhand (sometimes a weapon, sometimes cloak or even a buckler) was relatively common, absolutely supported by history as we know it, but that more than 50% of the time in "many times and places", people used a dagger with a rapier? I think that's going to be hard to support outside of specific cities and specific faddish time periods. I can think of a few times it might possibly have been true, but many where it was definitely true? I cannot.

However I do agree that it's dumb to not allow it at all or require specific classes or feats to do it.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Like just make it work differently. Two light weapons, you can attack an extra time. Light weapon and non-light weapon, you get +1 AC or something.

It’s just completely borked to gate rapier and dagger behind a feat, in a game where feats are few and large, rather than every other level and small.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

What we really need is an off-hand cloak weapon

Yes.

I’m working on a whole set of “defensive” weapons, from the classic main gouche, the trident knife, the cloak, targe, standard buckler, knuckle knife, maybe even a cestus. Each would help in a different way.