Argyle King
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Pretty cool idea.
Though, for the price, I'm more inclined to DIY with the tools I have in the garage.
Though, for the price, I'm more inclined to DIY with the tools I have in the garage.
cool! Post photos if you do!Pretty cool idea.
Though, for the price, I'm more inclined to DIY with the tools I have in the garage.
cool! Post photos if you do!
A 4-panel hardwood screen held together with magnets, and featuring various acrylic panels, accessories, and a dice tower costs more than $65?
While all true, and Mike is a genius in my book. He'll let you know he has thousands of dollars of miniatures and terrain and in fact got into trying to earn money with his hobby to fund his hobby.Slyflourish - The best features of a near perfect game are free (25:53)
While all true, and Mike is a genius in my book. He'll let you know he has thousands of dollars of miniatures and terrain and in fact got into trying to earn money with his hobby to fund his hobby.
It's not like golf, you can't buy a better game, nor is it like Football, you can't just buy a better team.
Still, you don't need a nice car nor a nice house nor a cool shirt.
Given, you can play for FREE.
That's not the point of things like this. Who is saying you HAVE to have this thing? Anyone?
That's not correct.They are both luxeries that some fail to recognize the effort and talent it takes to make them and, inmho, undervalue them.
Ah. You still miss the point. I’ve not said any of this, has anyone?I think it can be easy, especially when you first get into the hobby, that having more THINGS will lead to a better game. Platinum editions, special dice, the perfect terrain and perfect minatures, large TV’s set inside specialized tables, etc etc. I’ve definitely personally backed things on kickstarter based more on FOMO than anything else. Do you not agree that this is a phenomenon within the hobby? So while I’m glad creative people are able to sell their products, I think it can be helpful to make clear that the $500 screen is likely not going to be the thing that makes your games organized and easy to run.
That's not correct.
People aren't "undervaluing" them because they don't understand the effort/talent involved.
People value things based on the utility and prestige the give them.
They are both luxeries that some fail to recognize the effort and talent it takes to make them and, inmho, undervalue them.
OK. Then obviously you are not among that group of “some”.Value is personal, and idiosyncratic. We can understand the cost required to make a thing - those woods, the tools and facility they use, the time of skilled craftspeople, cost money. But the fact that those things cost money does not automatically mean that the thing is worth $300+ to me, personally.
I say this as someone who has bought Wyrmwood stuff before, and am happy with those purchases. They do good work. That doesn't mean I think the thing is worth a month's groceries, to me, personally.
Yeah to make it dimensionally stable they used a frame and raised panel construction, but the result is kind of kitchen-cabinety.Honestly, it looks like 3 kitchen door fronts bolted together. Normally I really like Wyrmwood stuff.
I think you're moving the goalposts in a pretty funny way.People value things for a wide variety of reasons. People also undervalue things for a wide variety of reasons. One of them is not understanding just what goes into making some things. Or undervaluing that effort.
Now if you’re trying to tell me no one does, well I think it’s obvious that’s wrong.
They did seem to stall at first but I think you might be right.Currently at $661,000 with 21 days remaining. That's...impressive. I don't think they'll have any trouble getting the $1M mark.
This is the exact quote you quoted: "They are both luxeries that some fail to recognize the effort and talent it takes to make them and, inmho, undervalue them."I think you're moving the goalposts in a pretty funny way.
Some people under and over value things, sure, duh, that's not an argument or even a point worth making.
But you asserted why people were and implied it was most people who didn't like it, which is nonsense. Almost no-one is just "undervaluing" it, no more than those "overvaluing" it.