Not a Conspiracy Theory: Moving Toward Better Criticism in RPGs

[FrogReaver]

"Pop-art is still art."
-Andy Warhol, in deed if not in word.

My crap is art and your (general you) crap is detestable!

…hmm I might be on to something here

 

[Thomas Shey]

I don’t think so

Most of us here are amateur game designers and tinkerers - all of us have home brewed before. So such lessons should help us here as well.

The line between "game designer" and "gamer" is often relatively slim. Even moreso when you get to people who run games.

 

[Thomas Shey]

I do not see a glimmer of light between that, and what I said.

I think there's quite a difference between intrinsically objecting to a tool, and objecting to using one for the wrong purpose. If you don't, well, that's on you.

 

[Umbran]

It's just a changing of the business model (artsy or quirky films or even romcoms are less likely to get large theatrical releases) than it is a change in quality.

And, indeed, there's a question that looks like it will soon be looming over the industry - it is no longer a given that, if you want eyeballs on your media, that the silver screen is the best place to get it.

 

[Umbran]

I think there's quite a difference between intrinsically objecting to a tool, and objecting to using one for the wrong purpose.

I don't think you expressed that in your sentence. At least, not so that it reads so to me.

If you don't, well, that's on you.

If you're going to that crummy mode of discussion, I don't want to follow you. Have a good weekend.

 

[Thomas Shey]

I don't think you expressed that in your sentence. At least, not so that it reads so to me.



If you're going to that crummy mode of discussion, I don't want to follow you. Have a good weekend.

When you use the mode you chose to respond to mine in, I think this is getting a bit rich. I'm not a mind reader; the fact you didn't understand my point is not something I had any way of knowing. As such, if you were saying there was no difference, my response was the best I know how to do here.

 

[Lanefan]

I like this point, so may I cherry-pick it out of context from the discussion with pemerton (which TBH I didn't understand well)?

On this isolated point, this seems 100% to true to me in theory.

In actual practice, how often do we think this forum is conducive to or facilitates the critic pointing out possible flaws or issues with something, which others in turn find helpful and useful?

For example, if there's a dearth of positive feedback, how often does the critic even realize who found what useful? Is there a positive feedback loop that encourages this?

To some extent, perhaps: the "like" button is one, and oftentimes people will chuck a quick "thanks for that" line in to a post.

To what extent is this forum conducive to that? For example, is it best suited to thick-skinned individuals who can power their way through all the negative feedback or counter-arguments, whereas everybody else just slinking off?

For my own part, I take the development of a reasonably thick skin as something to strive for; and the moderation here is good enough that one's skin doesn't really need to be all that thick in order to make something useful of the place.

IMO just slinking off achieves nothing, ever; it's better to power through the chaff and find the good stuff (it's always in there somewhere!) than it is to let the chaff become overwhelming.

 

[Lanefan]

Oh good! So you assert that the OP advocates for a wide-open non-exclusive discussion? And this is contradicted by their use of the ignore option on Enworld? Therefore it is ironic?

Is it ironic that this post is (I have to assume, as I can't see what you're responding to) in response to someone who has me blocked?

 

[Emoshin]

Is it ironic that this post is (I have to assume, as I can't see what you're responding to) in response to someone who has me blocked?

Yes, based on the limited info at my disposal, I feel like that could be a relevant example of irony.

 

[Emoshin]

For my own part, I take the development of a reasonably thick skin as something to strive for; and the moderation here is good enough that one's skin doesn't really need to be all that thick in order to make something useful of the place.

IMO just slinking off achieves nothing, ever; it's better to power through the chaff and find the good stuff (it's always in there somewhere!) than it is to let the chaff become overwhelming.

I really wish I had a thick skin, and I am also old (and hopefully wise) enough to accept that if I was going to grow one by now, I would have.

That said, a lot of my question asking, is my way of exploring what my options are here to your latter point.