Thanee said:1) Why is the attack roll different to the grapple check, shouldn't it be the same modifier (BAB(8)+Str(4))?
2) You are aware, that the arms do provoke attacks of opportunity for the grapple attempts? As far as I can see, at least one of the salamanders had not used up its AoO for the current round. Of course, they don't have to take this opportunity, rather hoping to get one of the attackers... err... us. Just wanted to point that out.![]()
Joining a Grapple
If your target is already grappling someone else, you can use an attack to start a grapple, as above, except that the target doesn’t get an attack of opportunity against you, and your grab automatically succeeds. You still have to make a successful opposed grapple check to become part of the grapple.