Opinions on the non-PHB races?
- Thread starter Kobold Avenger
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Greylock said:
Huh. They don't seem to be LA+1 creatures in my copy of Stormwrack. Was this changed in an errata or something?
Whizbang Dustyboots
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Since this got bumped, I like the Stormwrack races. The orca-folk, the deck apes and the Man from Atlantis types all have a lot of goodness.
Oh, and aquatic elves are listed as both no LA and LA +1. The race section and monster section disagree. I forget what the errata says; there are no aquatic elves in my world.
Oh, and aquatic elves are listed as both no LA and LA +1. The race section and monster section disagree. I forget what the errata says; there are no aquatic elves in my world.
Unkabear
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Really in the end it would all depend on how the player would approach me with the concept. I would allow any race into my game if the player showed me a decent background explaining the reason that he should be in my world. The party consists of Hero's generally and often times that group draws from the stranger elements of that world. It also feeds for some good side quests(or an important part of the main quest). But then I really do enjoy when my players give me good hooks to use from their history that I can incorporate into the game. Let me spotlight all of my players from time to time using something that they gave me to use, intentional or not.
If a player is just choosing Whisper Gnome to create an uber rogue with munch, then I will say no. If they choose to make a Whisper Gnome Rogue because they would like to play out the social interactions with other races and always be the outsider trying to fit in somewhere...I might allow it. It is the intention of the player that would let me include a race, not the mechanics. I enjoy adding flavor to my campains, especially if it makes for fun play.
What I would like to see revamped from 2e would be the Saurals. But not so class specific.
If a player is just choosing Whisper Gnome to create an uber rogue with munch, then I will say no. If they choose to make a Whisper Gnome Rogue because they would like to play out the social interactions with other races and always be the outsider trying to fit in somewhere...I might allow it. It is the intention of the player that would let me include a race, not the mechanics. I enjoy adding flavor to my campains, especially if it makes for fun play.
What I would like to see revamped from 2e would be the Saurals. But not so class specific.
I like the Warforged conceptually. They have a few balance issues I agree, but giving them darkvision and a bonus feat from a short list would bring them up to speed.HeapThaumaturgist said:
As is they really are noticeably weaker than the PHB races. People drasticly overvalue their advantages, and ignore their serious downsides because they don't like the concept and want to be able to pretend the warforged are objectively bad.
Cthulhudrew
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Whizbang Dustyboots said:
I'd imagine the confusion comes from something I recall seeing in Savage Species, way back when. In that, they suggested that, in non-aquatic campaigns, creatures with a swim speed wouldn't have a level adjustment, but if the campaign spends a lot of time on/around/under the water, creatures with a swim speed should have a +1 level adjustment.
Whizbang Dustyboots
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Sillier than faen?Wombat said:
