(OT) Any vegans out there?

[Pielorinho]

The only thing I can think of to add is to try to find a chart that shows how to complete proteins. In general you'll find that many ethnic foods will complete the proteins on their own. Most beans and rice, for example, complete a protein. I believe that peanuts (peanut butter) completes with bread.

True on both counts. Legumes and grains tend to complete a protein. However, as long as you eat a varied diet (french-fry vegans are common and are asking for trouble), you shouldn't have to worry too much about protein: you don't need complete proteins at every meal, you just need complete proteins over the course of a normal diet.

Number47, at your three types of vegetarians. I sometimes call myself vegetarian despite my love of fish, simply because lots of people consider that to be vegetarian, and it's easier than explaining my exact dietary cutoff to people. But yeah, guess i'm a liar.

You left out my favorite group, though: freegans, who'll eat anything as long as they're not paying for it (and thereby supporting the businesses that produce it). I don't know whether it's a sound philosophy, but it's got a catchy name.

Daniel

 

[KitanaVorr]

Originally posted by Piratecat
My apologies if this offends you. Please feel free to email me if it does.

Can't email you from work. But no worries. Was only going for clarity in this aspect. I don't want people to go "oh god let me change words right now!" but only to make people more culturally aware of where words come from.

 

[Mark Chance]

In an effort to be Loving and Supportive:

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[Viktyr Gehrig]

Personally, I'm more fond of Monkey Chow:

http://www.zupreem.com/pages/product sheets/PrimateDry67.pdf

edit: Sadly, this is not vegan, or even properly vegetarian. It uses animal proteins.

 

[Pielorinho]

Can't email you from work. But no worries. Was only going for clarity in this aspect. I don't want people to go "oh god let me change words right now!" but only to make people more culturally aware of where words come from.

not to split hairs, but the word dates from 1944 and is a contraction of vegetarianism. I've never heard that it came from Hinduism before at all; my impression was that it grew out of the American/British animal welfare movement.

Daniel

 

[Kahuna Burger]

Number47, at your three types of vegetarians. I sometimes call myself vegetarian despite my love of fish, simply because lots of people consider that to be vegetarian, and it's easier than explaining my exact dietary cutoff to people. But yeah, guess i'm a liar.

You left out my favorite group, though: freegans, who'll eat anything as long as they're not paying for it (and thereby supporting the businesses that produce it). I don't know whether it's a sound philosophy, but it's got a catchy name.

heh, when I'm eating out, I try to stay "vegetarian with fish". But its a little more complicated than that (as most things are) and the more I eat out or at other people's homes, the more I give in to the meat side of the force...

I find "freegans" amusing, as I (attempt to) fit into a subclass of them - I try to stick with non factory farmed meats. Insofar as there are as strong environmental and social justice reasons for semi-veggi life as health and animal love ones, I think freegans are making as defensible a choice as anyone.

Kahuna burger

 

[Voadam]

I would prefer that vegetarianism be used in an International forum.

Thanks!

My understanding of the terms:

Common usage of vegetarianism is does not eat meat but dairy and honey are fine. It does not necessarily mean herbivore only diet. The meat definition gets stretched sometimes to include eggs and fish.

Common usage for vegan is eat no animal product whether it kills the animal or not. So milk and honey are out as well.

 

[Sixchan]

heh, when I'm eating out, I try to stay "vegetarian with fish". But its a little more complicated than that (as most things are) and the more I eat out or at other people's homes, the more I give in to the meat side of the force...

I find "freegans" amusing, as I (attempt to) fit into a subclass of them - I try to stick with non factory farmed meats. Insofar as there are as strong environmental and social justice reasons for semi-veggi life as health and animal love ones, I think freegans are making as defensible a choice as anyone.

Kahuna burger

How exactly does Vegetarian with fish come about? Purely health reasons?

Genearlly, Vegetarians (aside from 2 of them, who can't because their parents were, and have no problems killing things for fun) I've met don't eat meat because they consider it inhumane, or something similar.

So how does "don't eat animals except Fish" work?

 

[Umbran]

stares hungrily at Mark

You're made out of meat. . . .

drools

Hey, guess what? It's not just him. It's all of them. They're Made Out of Meat!

 

[Pielorinho]

So how does "don't eat animals except Fish" work?

Since I do this, I'll answer -- but note that I'm not looking for an argument, or for you to tell me that my reasons don't make sense to you. That's okay if they don't make sense to you; they make sense to me.

My pseudovegetarianism comes about for ethical reasons related to the capacity of animals to suffer and the suffering brought about by the meat-production industry. In my opinion, fish have less of a capacity to suffer than birds or mammals. Therefore, I am more willing to kill a fish for my dinner than I am to kill a bird or mammal for my dinner.

I spent six years vegetarian; two of those years I spent contemplating switching to eating fish. I've been pseudovegetarian for eight years now, and have no plans to change.

Daniel