[OT] Hey there, Dr. Midnight, what's going on with your love life right now?

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I am left... wondering.

Admittedly, after your reports of the dates, the outlook on this lady are mixed, at best. I myself would probably wait to see if she had enough interest to make the next move.

SHARK is always eloquent, but he sounds... hasty. Four hours? You give the woman four hours to know you, and you expect her to consider kissing you? Unrealistic, I say.

People today want instant results in everything. Fast food, fast cars, fast paced action movies, and fast dating. Whatever happened to fine craftsmanship? To patience, to wating for the good things in life? Whatever happened to actually getting to know someone before you make up your mind about them?

And we wonder why there's a high divorce rate?

If she does call, what have you really got to lose, Doc? Time? SHARK seems to think that every moment not spent moving forward may be wasted. I disagree. Even when you don't move forward, you learn something. About her, about yourself, about people and relationships. Hardly a waste.
 

I know that it would be "best" if we all did what you did, but... I think that might be a bit too optimistic. It would be best if we were all in great shape too, but most people aren't. Alot of people can't afford a professional therapist and such a thing just isn't an option.

I try to be practical and realistic when it comes to giving advice. I find that most advice given has unrealistic expectations of those being advised. Ie: It would be great if I ran 5 miles a day, and it would help my cardio vascular and a bunch of other stuff, but I think it's unrealistic to expect most people to run 5 miles a day. I feel the same way about dating. It would be best if we all felt perfectly content and satisfied with being alone, but I think that's asking a bit too much of many.

-Arravis

P.S.: Good post Umbran, I see your point as well as Shark's. I think there are merits to both your approaches, and perhaps the best road is the one inbetween them both.
 
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SHARK said:

Besides all the hype about the "freedom" of being single, dating can at times be quite painful
I think he means dating can be painful when it gets into 'not going forward confusion land'.
(confused and going forward on the other hand is a heck of a lot of fun. :D)

Which is where I'd place Dr. Midnight's situation.

Generally though; I find dating to more enjoyable than catching.

If I could date them all, catch one or two, and keep dating without having to catch or toss out... I would.

It's just fun to meet people in a flirtatious environment.
 

arcady said:


Generally though; I find dating to more enjoyable than catching.

I don't know Arcady, catching is pretty damn sweet.

I think it fulfills my male need to hunt and conquer :)

Oh settle down folks!...it's a joke:)
 

Umbran said:
Four hours? You give the woman four hours to know you, and you expect her to consider kissing you? Unrealistic, I say.

People today want instant results in everything. Fast food, fast cars, fast paced action movies, and fast dating. Whatever happened to fine craftsmanship? To patience, to waiting for the good things in life? Whatever happened to actually getting to know someone before you make up your mind about them?

And we wonder why there's a high divorce rate?

God bless you, Umbran. I was beginning to wonder if anyone else held that opinion.... it's good to see I'm not alone.
 


1. Have you ever hunted a giraffe?

No

2. Have you ever had the urge to hunt a giraffe?

Yes

3. Provided the right tools and the time, would you hunt a giraffe?

Yes (I'd likely be willing to try it with improper tools and insufficient time)

4. If not a giraffe, would you hunt another African savannah animal?

Yes

5. If you had to hunt an African savannah animal, which of the following would you choose? a) Zebra b) Rhino c) Meerkat d) Boar e) Any creature that appeared in "The Lion King"

Billy chooses A: Zebra (best looking pelt of the bunch)

6. Do you think giraffe would taste like chicken?

No

7. Might it not make more sense not to hunt giraffe, but rather to set up giraffe ranches?

No. It's not about having access to giraffe products...it's about my male need to hunt and conquer.

8. When you see Geoffrey, the Toys 'R' Us giraffe, do you ever get the urge to stick him with a spear?

No

9. Do you expect that Newt Gingrich has ever had the urge to hunt a giraffe?

Yes, he seems pretty up front about it as a matter of fact.

10. If Newt Gingrich were to hunt a giraffe, would he use tools, or simply his own mouth?

Tools I should think.

11. Would you rather hunt a giraffe, or wallow in a ditch like a little piglet?

Hunt. Wallowing does little to slake my male need to hunt and conquer.

12. Would you generally describe yourself as a little piglet?

No
 


Umbran said:
SHARK is always eloquent, but he sounds... hasty. Four hours? You give the woman four hours to know you, and you expect her to consider kissing you? Unrealistic, I say.

I don't think it is unrealistic at all. Considering the social changes that have come with birth control, it makes sense. That doesn't mean that you have to kiss somebody on the first date; just that kissing on the first date isn't any kind of social faux pas. I think (just my opinion here) that most women, if they are interested in you, expect a kiss on the first date.
 

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