[OT] Reactions to NEW Episode II Trailer

[Ashtal]

*bangs head on table*

Alright, curse you, Global!!! And every other Canadian television channel who makes a habit of bleeding over their program onto American stations with the same shows. And double-curse you CRTC for allowing them to do that. If I wanted to watch the bloody thing on Canadian Television, I WOULD!

GAH!

I started swearing at the radio guys this morning when they started talking about the Star Wars trailer for 3 reasons:
1) They've been mocking Star Wars and the fans for two weeks now (they are very anti-geek).
2) NO ONE IN SUDBURY GOT TO SEE IT, unless they have satellite.
3) And certainly these two morons wouldn't have seen it anyways, since they are so anti-geek/SW.

Grrr....

Edit: Okay, just downloaded and installed Quicktime, fired up the trailer...

WOW! Okay, now I'm excited. I got tinglies.

 

[Gargoyle]

I thought Yoda WAS a puppet in The Phantom Menace. If he was CGI in Ep. I, then they seem to have taken a step back in the quality of the effects then....

You're correct. Yoda was a puppet, at least in most scenes. I watched the making of it on the DVD and remember the pit Frank Oz was in, and being amazed at the complexity of Yoda's controls.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the "obviously CGI" scenes with Yoda in Episode II are just some excellent puppeteering by Frank Oz again. Lucas prefers that Oz animate him, rather than computers.

Of course, if Yoda uses his lightsaber in Episode II, CGI will probably be a must.

 

[mmu1]

I thought Yoda WAS a puppet in The Phantom Menace. If he was CGI in Ep. I, then they seem to have taken a step back in the quality of the effects then....

Eh... Whathever he was, he looked better in Epsiode I. His long, wispy hair in particular just didn't look quite right, and he looked a little to shiny.

 

[mearlus]

Hmm... From what I get from friends, and posts like these is that Lucas pissed them off w/ Episode 1 so much that they are not willing to accept that another movie is coming out and are giving it a predestination of crap. They rip the trailers to peices, whine that it will suck, yet... they will download every trailer I get from me, read every link I send. It's almost like a "everyone else doesn't like it, so I wont" syndrom.

Yes, I think Episode 1 could have been better. A lot better. It wasn't, so lets move on and see if Lucas can make us believers yet. I can't really understand how people can have an opinion of a movie that isn't actually out yet! Yes, I know there are scripts floating around... I've read a few, and I've read one that seems to be the "real" script, or I should say clift notes of it. So far it follows in line of what all of the trailers show. You know what? I liked the script, and I must say that the script that I did read is action packed. Granted that this might be a fake script, very posssible. But if its not, I think a lot of the people that are ripping the trailers and Lucas are going to have to eat their words. But I'm realistic, it might be crap. I've got an idea, why don't we wait for the actual MOVIE to be released before we judge whether it's crap or not?

Another question for everyone that think that the trailers are crap; What do you think the trailers should be like?

Until May 16th

Mearlus

 

[King_Stannis]

i'm a big advocate that you shouldn't see a movie based on its trailer...having said that, i must say that i was excited after seeing this one. of course, i was pre-disposed to liking it - i am excited about the new movie.

hearing palpatine announce the creation of "a grand army of the republic", and knowing what it will grow into....well, that was just pretty damn cool.

i was convinced that 75% of the people on these boards who loudly denounced this movie would end up seeing it anyways.

you can raise that total to about 95% now.

 

[Wolfspider]

Granted that this might be a fake script, very posssible. But if its not, I think a lot of the people that are ripping the trailers and Lucas are going to have to eat their words.

I'm afraid I won't be eating anything, my friend, 'cause I've seen the actual trailer and was left utterly unimpressed with it. I'm not making a judgement based on something I haven't seen, after all. I haven't judged the movie to be good or bad, although I must say that after seeing the trailers I am not very excited about the movie.

By the way, it's my right as a consumer to make a judgement based on the two things that you disregard out of hand: previous experience and advertisements. (Consumers can't buy and try out EVERYTHING they see, after all. They have to make informed decisions.) Episode I was a disappointment to me, so that's one strike against the prequel series right off the bat. (Notice I'm talking about the prequel series and not the OT.) The advertisements have failed to interest me as well, so that's two strikes. Now, the actual movie may be awesome, but my impression so far is that it will not be.

Since you mentioned eating, I realized that I was hungry, so let's take an example from fast food. The Star Wars movies are the cinematic equivalent of fast food, after all.

Say I went to The Lord of the Onion Rings one day and saw a beautiful picture of a Kine of Araw burger. The picture was so appealing--the meat looked cooked to perfection yet still juicy, the bun and dressing were immaculately constructed, etc.-- that I ordered one of the sandwiches right way.

When I bit into the burger, however, I found that it was utterly digusting and foul-tasting, as if the animal had grazed in Mordor and been butchered by orcs with filthy scimitars. Choking down what I could, I left the restaurant with a bad impression (and the feeling that I was being watched by an all-seeing presence).

Now, imagine that a couple years later I happen to find myself in front of another Lord of the Onion Rings. I glance at the front window and am confronted by a sloppy looking and utterly unattractive picture of a Kine of Araw burger. The meat looks burnt and the bun is demolished. Am I going to go in and order a burger?

No way!

I'll probably end up going to Return of the Burger King down the road.

Note: This confusing comparison has been brought to you by Wolfspider's sleepy morning brain.

 

[mearlus]

I'm afraid I won't be eating anything, 'cause I've seen the actual trailer and was unimpressed with it. I'm not making a judgement based on something I haven't seen, after all. I haven't judged the movie to be good or bad, although I must say that after seeing the trailers I am not very excited about the movie.

I see. My rant was geared more to people judging the movie itself, not the trailers. Personally, I liked the trailers. They weren't the best, or as grand as I would have liked them, but I did not dislike them.

As for the advertising for the movie... They've started that already? I haven't even noticed. hehe I never pay attention to advertising, I guess it's the "anti-popup windows" in me that gives me an immunity to propaganda like that. Because I don't notice it, I guess that's why I don't formulate that into how others may judge a forth coming movie.

And it's more of the hypocritical people that irritate me. The ones that whine about it, yet will go to all ends to read/see more before it's out even though they have already decided they will rip at it before they have actually seen/read anything about it.

 

[Wolfspider]

And it's more of the hypocritical people that irritate me. The ones that whine about it, yet will go to all ends to read/see more before it's out even though they have already decided they will rip at it before they have actually seen/read anything about it.

If you haven't already, you need to see the movie Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. This movie is very relevent to this discussion in a number of ways....

As for the advertising for the movie... They've started that already?

Yes, they have.

*groans*

They had a week-long advertising blitz just for the TRAILER that was released yesterday. Talk about trying to build some hype....

By the way, if you really want to read some sick responses (both positive and negative) to the new trailer, follow this link:

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/tb_display.cgi?id=11731#425365

You'll weep in joy that you have such a wonderful, peaceful place such as the ENWorld message boards to post your questions anc comments.

 

[Dr Midnight]

Man, I get so depressed reading posts from jaded epI haters.

I loved the trailer. The war of the worlds-style planet walkers and armies of droids and clones firing away just diddles my movie nub. Yoda in action. Mace Windu in action. A small army of Jedi in action. Plus, a notably more Star Warsey feel than epI. I can't wait.

 

[Berandor]

I've seen it several times now.
The effects are great, but somehow I just don't care for it.

No expectancy rising in me, sadly. There are so many little tidbits cut together, without any coherance mostly.

I'm reminded of the slogan "Size DOES matter" for Godzilla. Big action, little value.

I'm sure the CGI will be terrific, but if all lines are transported like "Excuse ME, I'm in head of secuirty, madam"...

Don't get me wrong, the OT actors weren't shakespeare, as well, but at least the dialogue had spirit, or humour, or timing, or anything in it.
Many quotes from the first three movies, none from EPI. Will this one be better?

I can imagine when George Lucas came to Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor, telling them he had the great idea that Anakin would jump out of a glider to fall a hundred stories before hitting the glider he aimed for.
Ewan McGregor's comment: "I hate it when he does that."

I think the problem is that the first three movies were just fun movies, no explanations needed, just a pulp adventure. Nowadays, pulp isn't enough anymore. Ain't no dumb action movies around anymore, too (or at least no good ones).

The problem with providing depth and explanations is that you have to do it right, and not some half-hearted attempt. If you need to mention midi-chlorians, give it the full treatment.

No, I'm not excited. Merely bored.

Berandor