Picard Season 3

But apparently Picard himself wasn't sufficient nostalgia, they had to bring everyone back.

If nostalgia was their primary motivation, they should have had the old crew there from the first episode flying around in the latest Enterprise.

There was nothing wrong with the new crew.
There was a problem with the new crew in the context of a "Picard" show. They were all Poochies in a show that refused to get to the fireworks factory.

But more seriously, the problem with the new characters is that they felt like interlopers in a TNG derived show. Next Gen was formated as a show that generally didn't really develop relationships with anyone who wasn't a series regular very far (there were a few recurring characters, but most times when you saw a new face you knew they'd be gone by the end of the episode, even sometimes when they purportedly worked and lived on the ship). Next Gen was also a show whose greatest strength was iconic main characters, some of whom nevertheless got less character development in 7 seasons and 4 movies than we would expect a character in a drama series to get in one season these days, because it was a status quo oriented show. It was also a show that had so many giant existential crises of the week that it's hard to believe Picard's days captaining the Enterprise were not the defining days of his life, and the Picard series certainly embraces the idea that they are.

So the problem with the new characters is that Jean-Luc Picard is a character deeply defined in our minds in ensemble with the other Next Gen characters. An iconic pater familias character doesn't feel right if you plop him in with a different familias. When a crisis presents itself we expect him to go running to his old friends, who we have been made to believe are the most superlatively hypercompetent group in Starfleet. If there is an engineering problem he should be calling up Geordi damn it! Trying to present him as someone who, very realistically, has different important relationships at different parts in his life doesn't quite jive with the fundamental format of the old series and its presentation of the characters, much less the movies which naturally always involved them reuniting even when it required improbable events. 7 seasons and 4 movies hammered in that these people were the best of the best, and were Picard's A team for every possible situation. It feels weird for him to go call up a B team, and doubly so when they give him attitude.

Also, given that Next Gen was a status quo show that didn't have a whole lot of dynamic character growth, and whose characters are beloved and iconic, we want to see them again and see them get a treatment in longform, character-driven, "2020s prestige television" style format. I liked the new characters well enough, but they felt like the people we were sidled with because we couldn't have the old characters.

But yes, your fundamental claim that it smacks of desperation is not groundless. Picard the series has been a bit of a disappointment. I, on the whole, have liked it, but I still found it a disappointment. It is now being soft rebooted (note that almost nothing in season 3 episode 1 requires viewing seasons 1 or 2 to understand) as a full TNG-revival limited series. I think the latter has a lot more potential. This is what they probably should have just made in the first place.
 

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I have avoided this show due to reviews. If season three is good, can I skip the first two?
Episode one seems purposely formatted around the idea that this is a soft reboot, inviting in people like you who didn't see seasons 1 or 2. Presumably that is intentional and will carry throughout the season.

Obviously you won't appreciate scenes with characters from the first two seasons in quite the same way, nor stray references to them, but the scenes with Picard's romantic interest Laris, for example, make it clear enough what the relationship is, or at least as clear as seeing the prior seasons would make it.
 


Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
That was pretty good, though was it me or did Crusher's gun announce loudly for all her enemies to hear that she was out of ammo?

Titan looked good, though somebody should have said "Alexa, turn the lights up!" I guess the captain likes the dark! It's a pretty ship though. I enjoyed the leaving Spacedock sequence and musical references to the TOS films.

My bugbear popped up again though -- they got all the way to the edge of Federation space pretty much instantly. Why do they even need 5-year missions?
 



delericho

Legend
I thought it was good, and a distinct improvement over the previous two seasons. But... the first episode of season two was also received with glowing reviews and comments on being a vast improvement, and then fell off a cliff fast. So will this season do better?
 

Aeson

I learned nerd for this.
Presumably the 5 years is less for getting there, and more for looking around once you have?
That's what I thought. It's not about the destination, but the journey. It was a 5 year mission of exploration, not to a specific place.

As Gene himself said. The ship travels at the speed of plot.(paraphrased)
 




Rabulias

the Incomparably Shrewd and Clever
It looks like her new son is named Jack, after her dead husband (and Wesley's father), Jack Crusher. So I wonder if he is a clone of Jack in some way, or maybe there is a posthumous IVF situation going on.
 


FitzTheRuke

Legend
That captain of the Titan sure is a piece of work.

Why is it that they nearly always make other Captains complete jerks? You'd think Starfleet would be full of smart, open-minded explorers, but nope. If they're not "our" Captain, they're a loser.

Hopefully they will give him some time to redeem himself, in particular in that I suspect a Star Trek Titan spin-off is in the works (though they will probably replace the captain with one or another much-loved character first!)

We shall see.
 


An iconic pater familias
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I know you're making a serious and good point but that's what popped into my read the second I read that phrase.
 

MarkB

Legend
Why is it that they nearly always make other Captains complete jerks? You'd think Starfleet would be full of smart, open-minded explorers, but nope. If they're not "our" Captain, they're a loser.

Hopefully they will give him some time to redeem himself, in particular in that I suspect a Star Trek Titan spin-off is in the works (though they will probably replace the captain with one or another much-loved character first!)

We shall see.
Beverley said "don't trust Starfleet", so some Starfleet officers may turn out to be villains this season. He seems like a prime candidate - or else they're setting us up to not mourn him too much when he is tragically killed and Seven has to take the chair.
 



But apparently Picard himself wasn't sufficient nostalgia, they had to bring everyone back.

If nostalgia was their primary motivation, they should have had the old crew there from the first episode flying around in the latest Enterprise.

There was nothing wrong with the new crew.

Picard didn't feel like Picard in the first two seasons, even accounting for aging.
 

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