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D&D 5E - Anatomy of a Snafu- D&D Beyond and the Curious Contest

Is it snafu or snarfu? I digress.... The following two threads are probably relevant to this thread, and will explain why I am doing a deep dive on this issue: Thread about pay in the TTRPG Industry Thread about D&D Beyond Canceling an Art Competition I realized today that while many people...

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[Ryujin]

So, this is a little too heavy a topic for right now, so I will be brief.

I realized in law school my first summer while clerking for a state court judge (my 1L summer) that I would never, ever practice either family law or criminal law.

Family law for two reasons- one, I just couldn't even. Two reasons; first, the vast majority of the attorneys were terrible, and basis things like "evidentiary rules" were barely present because, again, terrible attorneys. But the main reason? Way too sad. I think people who do that (other than high-end divorce attorneys) eventually either burn out on the emotion and stop caring, or just ... are a mess.

It feels very much like something that would burn people out in the same way that police who work on human trafficking can be brutalized by it.

Criminal law? Because it is so structurally unfair. There are good people (good defense attorneys and yes, even good prosecutors) but the systemic issues ... no. Nope.

Again, very heavy topic, but the systemic issues in the criminal justice system are far-reaching. And I didn't want to be a part of that.

"The justice you can afford", and all of that. If I'd gone into law, I expect that it would have been something backroom. Motion prep, tax law, or the like, that would have not required direct appearances. Litigation would not be my thing.

 

[Scribe]

Family law for two reasons- one, I just couldn't even. Two reasons; first, the vast majority of the attorneys were terrible, and basis things like "evidentiary rules" were barely present because, again, terrible attorneys. But the main reason? Way too sad. I think people who do that (other than high-end divorce attorneys) eventually either burn out on the emotion and stop caring, or just ... are a mess.

I have the utmost respect for folks who can do work in those kinds of areas, its way way beyond my capacity to manage.

In somewhat distressing but completely unrelated areas.

I've been reading today instead of this site, the earlier history of Canada in the 1800-WW1 era, and as I kept going over page and article, over and over, peeking into rabbit holes, and expanding I came across something of a realization that I guess I never considered, or simply never came up.

The settlement of Canada, the 'creation' of the nation, via the various methods and activities, either Fishing (early East Coast) or Fur Trade (big) and then eventual immigration to push into the West (Prairies) and the Rail (coming at it from the West Coast)...you know what you read about?

Scottish, Irish, Welsh, Russian, Ukrainian, obviously the British/French, and then you have these bursts of activity, development, labour, being performed by Chinese, Japanese, and Indians (Sikhs) for example.

Notice whats missing?

The people who where here, are hardly even a footnote. The Native/First Nations, had by the late 1800's at least seemingly based on the various documents I've been reading, largely been erased to the point of not even being a labour force for the young nations efforts at development.

I watched a sobering video on the creation of Vancouver, and these people were just erased, either through dedicated effort, or illness/disease as we all are likely aware.

I've been aware of this story in part, my whole life, as it used to be covered in Elementary School what with the trading, furs, Hudsons Bay Company, all that, but that there wasnt even enough left as a labour force, and instead the country brought in people from overseas...eye opening and not something I've ever considered.

 

[Ryujin]

I have the utmost respect for folks who can do work in those kinds of areas, its way way beyond my capacity to manage.

In somewhat distressing but completely unrelated areas.

I've been reading today instead of this site, the earlier history of Canada in the 1800-WW1 era, and as I kept going over page and article, over and over, peeking into rabbit holes, and expanding I came across something of a realization that I guess I never considered, or simply never came up.

The settlement of Canada, the 'creation' of the nation, via the various methods and activities, either Fishing (early East Coast) or Fur Trade (big) and then eventual immigration to push into the West (Prairies) and the Rail (coming at it from the West Coast)...you know what you read about?

Scottish, Irish, Welsh, Russian, Ukrainian, obviously the British/French, and then you have these bursts of activity, development, labour, being performed by Chinese, Japanese, and Indians (Sikhs) for example.

Notice whats missing?

The people who where here, are hardly even a footnote. The Native/First Nations, had by the late 1800's at least seemingly based on the various documents I've been reading, largely been erased to the point of not even being a labour force for the young nations efforts at development.

I watched a sobering video on the creation of Vancouver, and these people were just erased, either through dedicated effort, or illness/disease as we all are likely aware.

I've been aware of this story in part, my whole life, as it used to be covered in Elementary School what with the trading, furs, Hudsons Bay Company, all that, but that there wasnt even enough left as a labour force, and instead the country brought in people from overseas...eye opening and not something I've ever considered.

All that I remember from my Canadian History classes, that involved the indigenous people, typically centred on stuff like who allied with who in the wars between the English and the French settlers. Sad that not only were they physically erased, but also largely erased from the historical narrative. As they say, the victors write the history. And it really was a war. A long, protracted war of genocide.

 

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“Context is important, but just give me quotes, snippets, and paraphrased examples, please.”

 

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Rule one of history: No one's hands are clean.

 

[Staffan]

And they are the lawyers that are worth paying for. Procedure isn't something that is designed by psychotic lawmakers to let criminals roam the streets. It's the defence of the innocent against oppression. Letting people being sentenced without a clear definition of a crime, and possible associated sanction, and with dubious evidence opens the way to judicial activism at best and tyranny at worst. Sometimes, a morally contemptible person escapes punishment because of a text that say "killing people with a knife is forbidden" and he used a screwdriver and claim it's totally different.

What you're writing makes a lot of sense, and it's all important stuff. But all I can think of is an old Onion headline, which I'll put in spoilers because it could be considered mildly NSFW:

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[Scribe]

All that I remember from my Canadian History classes, that involved the indigenous people, typically centred on stuff like who allied with who in the wars between the English and the French settlers. Sad that not only were they physically erased, but also largely erased from the historical narrative. As they say, the victors write the history. And it really was a war. A long, protracted war of genocide.

Yeah, I didnt want to get into some of the really terrible stuff, I saw things like 'small pox killed 2/3 of this area's population' and things like that, and it really just sunk in for me. I mean there are Chinatown's in Victoria, Vancouver, I think Victoria's is only younger than San Francisco's in North America, there is a Japanese Cemetery not far from where I live, for people brought over as miners.

I wish history was focused on more.

 

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