Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

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Yeah. That’s how propaganda works. If you want some history books on the same theme for the US, Central, and South America check out 1491 by Charles Mann and Open Veins of Latin America by Eduardo Galeano. Fantastic books but heartbreaking.

Yeah I dont think (note, its not something I've researched and I know some of the thought is changing regarding pre-contact populations and all that) its propaganda in this case as I was able to find that the specific period I was looking into, is thought to be the nadir of the population, specifically 1860ish-1910.

I've not really dug into these topics before so I have plenty to read I'm sure. Its funny (in a sad way) that an immediate google of Open Veins shows results that inaccurately portray the author. You really just cannot escape the internets failures these days.

 

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Yeah I dont think (note, its not something I've researched and I know some of the thought is changing regarding pre-contact populations and all that) its propaganda in this case as I was able to find that the specific period I was looking into, is thought to be the nadir of the population, specifically 1860ish-1910.

Propaganda in the sense that it’s mostly glossed over and ignored. Not teaching the colonial history is propaganda in that it white-washes history.

I've not really dug into these topics before so I have plenty to read I'm sure. Its funny (in a sad way) that an immediate google of Open Veins shows results that inaccurately portray the author. You really just cannot escape the internets failures these days.

Yeah. The one thing colonizers don’t want people to know about is the atrocities committed while colonizing.

 

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If enshittification is when a business does it for profit, what's it called when say for example the public library changes their website to make it harder to look for something?

 

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[Scribe]

If enshittification is when a business does it for profit, what's it called when say for example the public library changes their website to make it harder to look for something?

Mmm, depending on who runs/governs the library, I'd say its a poor use of resources, or they got taken to the cleaners by a bad software developer.

You wouldnt think these things would happen so often after however many years of the internet being a thing, but even 'successful' companies screw this up at an alarming rate.

 

[Scribe]

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Bro...what...what? What are you doing here. Like I dont know if you get it or not, I dont have you blocked, so I dont think you are an obvious troll. What.are.you.doing.

 

[overgeeked]

Mmm, depending on who runs/governs the library, I'd say its a poor use of resources, or they got taken to the cleaners by a bad software developer.

You wouldnt think these things would happen so often after however many years of the internet being a thing, but even 'successful' companies screw this up at an alarming rate.

Not everyone likes change. A lot of people complain when UX changes regardless of whether the functionality is improved or not. Simply because it’s new to them they think it’s terrible, bad, and no good. It’s often framed as “making things harder” when it’s more that some users simply don’t like change and stamp their feet.

Which is kinda hilarious given the other poster’s absolute love of all things tech and “improvement.” When it comes to other people losing jobs, healthcare, and housing to “AI” it’s “too bad, get over it.” But when the library’s new website takes them a few minutes longer to navigate it’s time for pitchforks and torches.

“Tragedy is when I stub my toe. Comedy is when you fall into an open manhole and die.” —Mel Brooks

 

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Mmm, depending on who runs/governs the library, I'd say its a poor use of resources, or they got taken to the cleaners by a bad software developer.

You wouldnt think these things would happen so often after however many years of the internet being a thing, but even 'successful' companies screw this up at an alarming rate.

it's just me being a grumpy old man in further irony I'm not able to check out books from that library anyway. I was just trying to find the name of a book that iirc was along the lines of 1491 but was recently published. My local library only has one month of "new" to short on the online catalog while the actual "new" shelf is more than that.

I'll head over to my local anyway and grab it so that I can relay that info Incidentally, my local does have 1491 but as an ebook which is checked out. I needed to go there anyway to return a book.

 

[RealAlHazred]

Not everyone likes change. A lot of people complain when UX changes regardless of whether the functionality is improved or not.

I still remember when my dad got the newer Microsoft Office suite several years ago. I was talking to him on the phone, and he was saying how great it was and how much he liked it and what a great job Microsoft did. Then he said, "The only thing I can't figure out is how to open a file."

MS had moved all that stuff to the ribbon. He couldn't find it without me explaining it.

That was not an example of improved functionality. And yet I still saw many articles thinly veiled advertisements in trade journals extolling the ribbon's nonexistent virtues.

 

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There was a joke i had heard years ago with the punch line along the lines of "And I'm proof that the system sucks"