Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Staffan]

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." - Oscar Wilde, "The Internet", probably.

People tend to be less in-your-face when the opportunity exists to feed them their own teeth - Ryujin

Somewhat more succinctly stated here (not including the image in the post because of somewhat NSFW language).

 

[Staffan]

In America you (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
In Soviet Russia ┬─┬ ︵ /(.□. \）

In Capitalist America, Man oppresses Man. In Soviet Russia, is other way around.

 

[Hussar]

What is toxic positivity?

I mean sure not wanting to hear criticisms of something you like. But I’m fairly sure that the notion of toxic positivity is nowhere near as harmful as toxic negativity.

No one sends rape threats to actresses they like. At least I really really hope not.

 

[Scribe]

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My neighbors are naughty word potheads. I absolutely hate that they have legalized this naughty word so I have to be exposed to it. I just want to have my windows open in the summer you naughty word losers.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

 

[Ryujin]

What is toxic positivity?

I mean sure not wanting to hear criticisms of something you like. But I’m fairly sure that the notion of toxic positivity is nowhere near as harmful as toxic negativity.

No one sends rape threats to actresses they like. At least I really really hope not.

You might just be unpleasantly surprised at that one. Several women I know, with what would be considered a small public profile, get truly disturbing messages on a fairly regular basis. I really can't imagine what the ones with larger profiles receive.

 

[Hussar]

You might just be unpleasantly surprised at that one. Several women I know, with what would be considered a small public profile, get truly disturbing messages on a fairly regular basis. I really can't imagine what the ones with larger profiles receive.

Yeesh. Yeah. I can see that.

But I’m not sure I’d call that toxic positivity.

 

[Ryujin]

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My neighbors are naughty word potheads. I absolutely hate that they have legalized this naughty word so I have to be exposed to it. I just want to have my windows open in the summer you naughty word losers.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

My back yard next door neighbours are inveterate druggies. If I didn't have the white noise of my AC unit in my bedroom window, I doubt that I would get any sleep. They seem to be smoking in the back yard at all hours, to the point I have no idea if, and or when they ever sleep. My front next door neighbour has a living room window that shares their back yard so they, and their untrained yappy little dog, make sure that he gets almost no sleep as well. I don't think they've figured out that my upstairs camera, that views just my back yard and maybe 5 feet beyond my fence, picks up every time they get a late night "delivery."

 

[Ryujin]

Yeesh. Yeah. I can see that.

But I’m not sure I’d call that toxic positivity.

Well it's toxic and from "fans", so I think that it qualifies.

 

[Scribe]

My back yard next door neighbours are inveterate druggies.

Immediate neighbor has a heavy duty fan that blows it out of HIS house, into MINE, and the people behind me, with our respective yards between us, it comes wafting in at all hours. Its just wild at this point, and I cannot wait to move.

Someone wants to partake in a setting that doesnt impact anyone else? Go nuts, I dont care. Once you are leaving a haze behind you that is going into everyone else's houses? Please stumble into traffic.

 

[Bedrockgames]

What is toxic positivity?

It is the other side of toxic negativity. It is loving a piece of media so much, that you go to lengths defending it that are harmful to others or to yourself. So no just disagreeing with someone who criticizes a movie you like, but attacking their character, harassing them, painting critics with a broad brush, declaring them some kind of awful thing, even if all they've done is say they don't like it for a reasonable reason. I think like toxic negativity it also can get into dehumanizing and dismissive language and treatment of people perceived to on the other side. In its milder forms I would say it is simply an inability to tolerate criticism of something you like.

I think the boogie man of review bombing is a part of this. I am sure some people review bomb, but I am equally sure there are people review bombign both in favor and against a movie or show. We don't really know how extensive this is. Online platforms are pretty imperfect and not good at measuring how many people like a thing because there are bots, there are trolls, there are badly designed systems that misread review ratings, etc. But lately I see any wave of audience criticism just dismissed as review bombing, even if the show or movie in questions turns out to perform poorly at the box office in the end. Eventually with time we get a clearer image of these things anyways. And sometimes the fixes for this can be worse than the problem. The Rotten Tomatoes change for example, where they only measure audience scores by people who bought tickets through fandango is going to miss all the people who didn't purchase tickets in this way. In the end, we are probably just better off taking all review aggregate ratings, and frankly all reviews, with a grain of salt

No one sends rape threats to actresses they like. At least I really really hope not.

It isn't about them targeting the actors and actresses they like, it is about them targeting critics and people online they don't agree with (and threats do emerge from this as well). Obviously fans do stalk celebrities as well and that is a problem, but that isn't the kind of thing I am talking about with toxic positivity