Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Ryujin]

I have been in home tiki bar groups on Facebook where the moderators would kick people out of the group if the photos of their home tiki bars weren't sufficiently tiki enough for their tastes.

That said, the hot sauce community seems pretty chill, not shaming people for asking basic questions or being excited about pretty ordinary store-bought hot sauces they've just discovered, even if the hardcore folks are growing their own peppers and bottling their own sauces.

The chainmailing forum I was a mod on was like the second, largely because it was based in the site of a manufacturer/retailer of chainmailing gear. you had newbies, journeymen, right up to the company owners and a few folks who, quite literally, wrote the book on making chainmail and scalemail. The only person I can ever remember getting a little pissy was the one who made and sold a device for ring cutting. He turned up his nose when I posted about my personal rig that I'd made by watching his early work, along with that of several others, then added improvements that even his current setup was lacking. Thing is the improvements were obvious. Well, at least to me.

 

[payn]

I don't think my hop intake is anywhere close to getting me to a shift...

Stouts (many kinds, not usually Barrel Aged or Nitro), Porters, Hefe/Dunkel Weiss, and a few other random things [Pumpkin Ales, Lime Sours] are my usual, but I can enjoy a Modelo too.

My hopes die a little every time my stout isnt nitro.

 

[prabe]

My hopes die a little every time my stout isnt nitro.

I'm mostly ambivalent about nitro pours, probably mostly because I do the vast majority of my drinking at home.

 

[overgeeked]

When learning physics, it is common to have problems where you make various simplifying assumptions about the thing you're trying to calculate, such as approximating whatever you're trying to calculate as a point rather than whatever its actual shape and volume is, or ignoring air resistance/drag when calculating how quickly something falls. This is done so you can focus on whatever the problem is trying to teach, and often you will get fairly close to what the real-world solution would be.

White-rooming is kind of like that. You abstract away all the circumstances to get to the core of the issue. That is often practical, particularly when comparing two things. For example, circle of death hits all creatures within a 60-foot radius sphere, while fireball has a 20-foot radius instead. So as a first order of approximation, circle of death should hit about 9 times as many targets as fireball (3 times the radius, and square that for an area – we're ignoring height for the moment). That's the white-room comparison. But in an actual situation, it's pretty rare to be facing enemies that are so numerous and spread out that you get full benefit from the larger AOE. You might hit an extra target or two, but almost certainly not nine times as many. And in addition, the larger AOE can be a liability because it's hard to hit many enemies without hitting friends as well. And that's the kind of analysis that you generally don't get from white-rooming something.

Then we agree. Theorycrafting removes all the actually relevant details to arrive at a quick and easy but wrong conclusion.

 

[gnarlygninja]

I’ll take a half-decent cider over any beer. I’m still salty Woodchuck switched to cans from glass bottles.

I haven't been able to find Woodchuck in so long I didn't even know they switched. They're basically the only American cider I've found that I like, the rest taste almost indistinguishable from Mott's apple juice to me.

 

[prabe]

I haven't been able to find Woodchuck in so long I didn't even know they switched. They're basically the only American cider I've found that I like, the rest taste almost indistinguishable from Mott's apple juice to me.

I've had some ciders that I enjoyed, but it's not my primary thing, I couldn't tell you which ciders those were.

 

[gnarlygninja]

I've had some ciders that I enjoyed, but it's not my primary thing, I couldn't tell you which ciders those were.

My go to cider is Aval, particularly the Gold and Blanc varieties, although it seems to have vanished from the stores near me recently. I don't know if that's because no one else likes it or because of tariffs.

 

[overgeeked]

I haven't been able to find Woodchuck in so long I didn't even know they switched. They're basically the only American cider I've found that I like, the rest taste almost indistinguishable from Mott's apple juice to me.

I hadn’t seen them in the wild for awhile so checked their website. That’s how I found out. Still disappointing.

 

[Staffan]

Then we agree. Theorycrafting removes all the actually relevant details to arrive at a quick and easy but wrong conclusion.

I wouldn't go that far, but I think we differ in degree mostly. Theorycrafting is analysis, but it's the beginning of it and not the whole of it. For many cases, you don't need to go into much depth, e.g. when determining how much to power attack in 3e or 3.5e.

 

[Thomas Shey]

I wouldn't go that far, but I think we differ in degree mostly. Theorycrafting is analysis, but it's the beginning of it and not the whole of it. For many cases, you don't need to go into much depth, e.g. when determining how much to power attack in 3e or 3.5e.

Yeah, there are things that come down to pretty much the numbers in play and not much else, and then there are things you need to look at a lot more context and interplay with other parts to assess properly.