PotC: Dead Man's Chest spoiler thread

[Darthjaye]

Good lord, it's good and a hit. It cleared a 132 million by most estimates. Best opening ever. Think I'll go throw more money in their bucket and see it again this week.

 

[paradox42]

I don't know if she's "the real problem," but I'd bet that she's the woman in Davey Jones' past. Not only did I get that impression from the way she told the tale, but I thought--though I could be imagining things--that she had a charm on her table that very much resembled the heart-shaped music box Davey had on his organ.

You're not imagining things; I noticed that during the movie too. But it didn't even occur to me to connect her with him in that way until I read this post. Very intriguing idea! If she actually is a villian of some kind, one has to wonder what her plan actually is and how it will be revealed (not to mention unravelled)!

 

[DonTadow]

While very entertaining, Jack is a selfish bastard, this movie just had chance to show it better than the first.

I think that as why I liked him more in this movie. In the firmst movie we see jack against the ropes and he is forced to be hoerics. Here we finally get him in his natural envrionment. He has no quest and we see how much of a bastard he truly is. One of the things I remarked on after the movie was how refreshing it was to have a true anti hero.

 

[nikolai]

'Heroic' was probably the wrong word for me to use because of the moral connotations. 'Swashbucklery' is probably better. Jack just didn't do much compared to the first film where there was all sorts of dramatic dering-do: the rescue of Elizabeth, escape from Norrington, fight with Will, and so on... In this one we had the escape from the cannibals (very un-swashbucklery and played for laughs), the wheel fight (where he was tepid) and I really can't remember much else.

 

[Plane Sailing]

I enjoyed the film, but not as much as I'd expected, and that is because of its 'matrix reloaded' ending.

Not as bad as 'back to the future 2', but definitely less closure for me than 'empire strikes back'. I left feeling that I'd seen half a film rather than a whole film.

I agree that there was some interesting character development, and some fun moments (several laugh-out-loud ones, which is always a good sign in a movie!) but... we'll see how it turns out.

I thought that Tia Dalma was a stand-out turn though. Even with bad teeth she had the most alluring screen presence of anyone, very highly charged.

Cheers

 

[Kid Charlemagne]

What did Jack do?

Yeah, Jack was played as the buffoon much more in this film. He didn't really have any of those awesome moments like in the first film - pretending to steal the one ship so the crew would prep the ship he actually wanted to steal so he could sail away at full speed. He never really seemed as crazy cool in this one.

Barbossa at the end made me realize just how important he was for the first film. I don't think Tia Dalma ressurected him. He must have survived some other way. Maybe he just dragged himself back up the chest and took an Azteec coin before he kicked, like his monkey.

The beginning of the film felt very "stagey".

I'm not sure anything would have been lost if they had cut the entire cannibal island segment. The whole thing seemed unnecessary.

 

[mhacdebhandia]

I'm not sure anything would have been lost if they had cut the entire cannibal island segment. The whole thing seemed unnecessary.

Hehehe. So it's the Hoth sequence from The Empire Strikes Back?

(I've always felt it dragged on far too long.)

 

[Aeolius]

Maybe he just dragged himself back up the chest and took an Azteec coin before he kicked, like his monkey.

Except you see him eating an apple...so he is very much alive.

 

[Abraxas]

I wonder if they'll cover how he lived past the fatal heart-shot?

My guess is the monkey brought him the coin it took from the chest at the end of the first movie before he was "all dead".

Except you see him eating an apple...so he is very much alive.

You see him biting into an apple - whether or not he could enjoy it was unknown. They could eat and drink in the first movie, they just couldn't quench their thirst or slake their hunger.

Overall - I thought the movie was great except for 2 things.

1) The middle of a much longer movie feel to the ending.
2) Elizabeth's character - there were a few secenes where her actions seemed (to me) extraordinarilly contrived, enough to jar me out of enjoying the movie and focus on why they seemed to not fit.

 

[Banshee16]

Awesome movie...I was concerned after hearing some of the reviews, and seeing the rating dropping at Rotten Tomatoes, but I think it was a far better movie than the critics are giving it credit for.

Apparently the public agrees, as the movie has blown several records out of the water with respect to take over one weekend, from what I understand.

A few things were inconsistent though...

1-Why were the guy with the eyball that falls out and his buddy in the crew? They were the enemy, even at the end of the last film..

2-Why was Elizabeth willing to go after Jack at the end of the movie? She saw earlier in the movie that he's willing to sell out his friends to save himself....he's not exactly a "good man". So why act like he was at the end?

3-Will.....has he, or has he not traded away his soul? He seemed to lose it in the bet, but then he escaped. Is he cursed now?

Was Jack having a hero moment at the end? He really was just doing one of the only things he had left as a choice. He wasn't exactly in a position where he could get away.

So, are Davy Jones and his crew aberrations or undead?

Banshee