Power Lunge

[Dwarmaj]

I know this has been covered many times before, I just can't seem to find the threads.

How does the multiplying of damage work? I seem to remember somewhere that the "double your strength modifier" replaces your strength instead of in addition to like the feat suggests.

Example:
3rd level Fighter with Greatsword and 18str
How much damage would he do on a charge?

2d6 + str * (1+ .5 + 1) = 2d6+ 10 or
2d6 + str *(1+ .5) + str*(2) = 2d6+16

Dwarmaj

 

[Crothian]

The times two replaces the times 1.5 so in your example the damage is 2d6 +8 (str modifier times two).

 

[IceBear]

Yup, what Crothian said. It's been clarified by the Sage (or someone like that) that this is how it works.

IceBear

 

[Dwarmaj]

Thanks

I can see it replacing the normal strength modifier, but why doesn't the character using a weapon 2-handed do more damage than one using a weapon 1-handed?

 

[Crothian]

Thanks

I can see it replacing the normal strength modifier, but why doesn't the character using a weapon 2-handed do more damage than one using a weapon 1-handed?

Just the way it works. Also note if you do this attack with your off hand the times two replaces the times half that off hands normally get.

 

[hong]

I don't recall any comments by the Sage on this issue (as if that ever stopped anyone, anyway ). Why wouldn't it be wrong to say that the x2 stacks with the x1.5, using the D&D rules for "multiplication"?

 

[IceBear]

I personally don't have a problem with that. I remember there was a TON of discussion on it when S&F first came out and that ended up being the ruling so I just stuck it in my notes.

Actually, I just checked the offical errata for S&F:

p. 8, Power Lunge
Insert to the end of the 1st sentence in Benefit:
regardless of whether you’re using one- or two-handed weapons.

IceBear

 

[Iku Rex]

I don't recall any comments by the Sage on this issue (as if that ever stopped anyone, anyway ).

I do. IceBear and Crothian are correct.

Why wouldn't it be wrong to say that the x2 stacks with the x1.5, using the D&D rules for "multiplication"?

Technically the feat says to add double your Strength modifier to the attack's damage. Last time I checked, the damage form an attack with a two-handed weapon included 1.5 your Strength modifier. The "right" answer is 2d6 + 6 ("the attack's damage") + 2 x Str mod (Power Lunge) = 2d6+14.

This is yet another badly worded S&F feat that wasn't fixed in the errata. (Presumably, the Sage ruling also applies to "Mantis Leap".)