D&D (2024) Predictions for Playtest packet 7's arrival

[Vaalingrade]

But I would like to think we have reached a point in player/DM relations that just because something is only found in the DMG that doesn't mean players can't have or at least ask for access to it and that DMs aren't willing to give it to them. It's a sad state if that animosity still exists between them.

I mean we're on Enworld. We've got a thread right now showing that some players are lucky their character gets to go to the tavern if the DM doesn't approve.

And we're talking 5e, where feats were optional. Keeping stuff from players is the new hotness.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

I am hoping we'll see a fuller and revised list of the starter feats (and other feats too) somewhere in here. I think they are done with races (though I would like another pass on them as well). But a revision on starter feats could help lead to improvements.

I'd like more races, specifically the Aasimar and Genasi added, with a new take that brings them more in alignment with PHB 2024 Tieflings, they've earn being a PHB core race.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Everybody seems to be forgetting they said they are adding a pile of new spells, including ones named after famous wizards.

Might add some more types of weapons.

Might add actual meaningful rules to hybrids species. Who knows what else.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

An optional build-a-hybrid-species system in the DMG would be pretty dope, now that you mention it. Not something I’m going to hold my breath for, but I do like the idea!

I'd prefer that in the PHB.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

It saddens me to think that putting a rule in the DMG is considered sealing it away. As though they are stuck playing with DMs who are so set in their ways that they will refuse to use extra or variant rules in the DMG even if the players want to.

If this is genuinely an issue for a large number of players, then yes, the mixes species rules should be in the PHB. But I would like to think we have reached a point in player/DM relations that just because something is only found in the DMG that doesn't mean players can't have or at least ask for access to it and that DMs aren't willing to give it to them. It's a sad state if that animosity still exists between them.

There are, and even when there isn't, there is the possibility that hybrid rules don't make it into the SRD if they aren't in the PHB, and honestly it's more convenient. Plus the DMG has enough on its platter.

 

[Frozen_Heart]

Hmm. I had suspected that after the flap about removing half elves and half orcs, we'd see a playtest on rules regarding that. They even tweeted something to that effect. Maybe that's DMG specific though.

Inb4 their solution is still removing half-elves/half-orcs, but also removing the hybrid species sidebar option. Then scrubbing all half elves and half orcs from the lore.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Inb4 their solution is still removing half-elves/half-orcs, but also removing the hybrid species sidebar option. Then scrubbing all half elves and half orcs from the lore.

They won't take it that far, they've already been metaphorically spanked by the public for their handling of this.

Is it weird I want to play a Half Storm Goliath, Half Aasimar?

 

[Henadic Theologian]

What they might do is basic hybrid is fluff mostly, except size and as a prerequisite for Hybrid feats.

 

[DEFCON 1]

With several more playtests coming out through the end of 2023, my own feeling is that anyone and everyone who wants Multi-Speciesing rules should make sure to talk about it and ask for it in every playtest survey that comes out-- even in sections that aren't specifically about the species rules.

Because at the end of the day... having a Mixed Species entry or sidebar that lists each of the species in the 5E24 and two specific species features from each of them that will get swapped out for the two from the second species to create a mixed species character is such an easy thing to do that I don't know why Jeremy et. al. wouldn't do it.

 

[bedir than]

Inb4 their solution is still removing half-elves/half-orcs, but also removing the hybrid species sidebar option. Then scrubbing all half elves and half orcs from the lore.

As a reminder, halfelves and halforcs are in the creative commons. They can never be taken away as long as the version is compatible with the 5.1 SRD.