Proclamation

[Thotas]

Proclamation: Shilsen knows what he's talking about.

 

[TheGM]

Well said, Shilsen. That is indeed what I was getting at - they're a tool available to the GM, not a requirement. Sometimes I use them, sometimes not.

 

[pogre]

This might be true (I don't know Mythusmage), but there is a point in that 3.5 lends itself to the belief (and you can hear it on this thread) that you MUST have a mat and minis. Simply put, they're a tool to help the game, not a requirement. That was only confused by groups that had other problems in previous versions, with this one it seems endemic.

I have never asserted minis are required - I have only stated the rules assume their use. That is incontestable. Can you house rule them out? - of course! Is D&D less of a roleplaying game because it has strategic and tactical play written into the rules? - certainly not!

 

[pogre]

Proclamation - I run D&D games. I have exciting action and complex roleplaying (often at the same time). I sometimes game with a battlemat and miniatures and sometimes I do without. I really enjoy D&D and fail to see the problems mentioned in this thread and often elsewhere.

Anyone else?

I wholeheartedly agree!

 

[jmucchiello]

I've never used miniatures in 3.5 and I never will. We map things out in our heads or pieces of scrap paper just the same as we did in 1E. The inclusions of square references and such exist in 3.5 for those people who do use them, not as a mandatory rule that you must. Everything is still expressed in real values such as feet.

This is fundamentally the same as using a grid and minis you know. I never understand why people have a hang up about minis and grids and yet they "map" combat on paper with "tokens". Same thing. I used paper and tokens in 1e until I bought a battlemat from Chessex. From then on I used a grid and tokens (minis, dice, bits of paper, lego, etc). That was 1e. That was 2e. That is 3e. The grid is easier for everyone at the table to see simultaneously. Using pencil on a small piece of paper is archaic to me. I have never seen 3 people agree on a "map in our heads" as to the location of 3 or more combatants at once. But, if you don't need them, hey, more power to you.

 

[Desdichado]

I did not see it as trolling,

Let's see--controversial statement, no other content... how is it not a troll?

 

[Psion]

Proclamation - I run D&D games. I have exciting action and complex roleplaying (often at the same time). I sometimes game with a battlemat and miniatures and sometimes I do without. I really enjoy D&D and fail to see the problems mentioned in this thread and often elsewhere.

Anyone else?

I am intrigued by your comments and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

 

[BryonD]

I've always found that rolepleying is entirely separate from the game system used. The game system is, after all, nothing more than task resolution, and task resolution is entitely seperate from roleplaying. It can affect the roleplaying, but it isnt it. I roleplay as much with D&D as with any system.

Me too

 

[The_Universe]

Let's see--controversial statement, no other content... how is it not a troll?

Fire and/or acid do not cause non-regeneratable wounds?

 

[BryonD]

Fire and/or acid do not cause non-regeneratable wounds?

I greatly doubt the truth of that.
And I daresay Mythusmage doesn't want to try to prove you right.