Rhun's OLD Greyhawk ALPHA OOC Thread (ToEE) -CLOSED

[Leif]

No, wait, Thanee, Trevor is not happy with this distribution at all. He already has a +1 magic sword that was found earlier, so he wants gold more than he wants the flaming sword now, especially if taking the flaming sword is going to put him over 800 gp in debt to the party. He doesn't even have 300 gp right now, so he wants the gold and Dara is more than welcome to the sword.

 

[Thanee]

Is that Coraine's old sword? Or yet another one?
Do we actually have two +1 longswords or just one (that is currently listed on two sheets then )?

If I have things right, Coraine's old sword is the one Kurt is using right now (and the +1 longsword listed above for him)?

Think about it, though, it's a pretty good deal to get an effective +2 weapon for just 4k (half normal price). Bought items will always be more expensive.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Leif]

It was either Coraine or Kurt that gave Trevor the +1 sword when a better one was found some time ago. How is the flaming sword an effective +2 weapon?

Also, Trevor is already too reckless in combat for his own good. How much worse will that become if he gets better offensive capabilities without a corresponding increase to his defensive ones?

Plus, he just likes money!

 

[Legildur]

It was either Coraine or Kurt that gave Trevor the +1 sword when a better one was found some time ago. How is the flaming sword an effective +2 weapon?

It's an effective +2 bonus for determining its cost/value - the +1 enhancement bonus and an additional +1 bonus (cost wise) for the flaming property.

If Trevor doesn't want it, then Kurt will take it

 

[stonegod]

When I picked up Coraine, I copied everything he had. When I started, he already had the +2 longsword.

Given that, he doesn't have 1k to "pay" for the sword he's already using. That should be significantly defrayed by his mwk fullplate (825k to sell, though I'm assuming he bought it at its full 1650gp price).

 

[Thanee]

Plus, he just likes money!

No problem, if you prefer it that way... then we just need to figure out who gets what and whether we actually do have two +1 longswords or just one.

If we have two, then one more has to be figured into the above (total party treasure and Trevor's share).


Assuming that we actually do have another +1 longsword (so we have two together with Coraine's old one), and moving the flaming sword from Trevor to Dara, and the full plate to Kurt (for a more even distribution of loot), things would look like this, then:

Total value (including the items) is then 20848 gp 8 sp 4 cp.
That's 3474 gp each, leaving 4 gp 8 sp 4 cp in the party treasury.

- Coraine +2 longsword (gave back +1 longsword) (3000) --> 3474 gp - 3000 gp = 474 gp
- Dara +1 flaming longsword (4157.5) --> 3474 gp - 4157 gp 5 sp = -683 gp 5 sp
- Kurt +1 longsword (1157.5), +1 full plate (1375) --> 3474 gp - 2532 gp 5 sp = 941 gp 5 sp
- Trevor +1 longsword (1157.5) --> 3474 gp - 1157 gp 5 sp = 2316 gp 5 sp
- Ragnok --> 3474 gp
- Verdis --> 3474 gp

That, of course, wouldn't work out, if we only have one +1 longsword.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Thanee]

When I picked up Coraine, I copied everything he had. When I started, he already had the +2 longsword.

Yeah, he got that right before you took over, I think.

We have distributed the treasure to be used, but had not made any shares or anything yet. The above is meant to do so in a mostly fair way ('buying' items from the party treasure is still a benefit).

Given that, he doesn't have 1k to "pay" for the sword he's already using. That should be significantly defrayed by his mwk fullplate (825k to sell, though I'm assuming he bought it at its full 1650gp price).

Right now it's just a proposal; in the latest revision above I have moved the full plate to Kurt for a more even distribution, which would mean that Coraine comes out with a plus (but not a plus one full plate then, of course ).


I think this (evenly split treasure with found items 'bought' at half price) is a good way to do this. If anyone has a better idea, though...

Also, if it happens that one will end up with a minus, that wouldn't be a problem at all... it would just be figured into the next share, which would then be smaller by the appropriate amount.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Thanee]

Here's another one (almost the same as the first) for when we only have a single +1 longsword (in that case, Kurt will get the flaming longsword; longsword is the favored weapon of Heironeous, after all ).

Total value (including the items) is then 19691 gp 3 sp 4 cp.
That's 3281 gp each, leaving 5 gp 3 sp 4 cp in the party treasury.

- Coraine +2 longsword (gave back +1 longsword) (3000), +1 full plate (1375) --> 3281 gp - 4375 gp = -1094 gp (selling the existing full plate will almost cover this)
- Dara +1 warhammer (1156) --> 3281 gp - 1156 gp = 2125 gp
- Kurt +1 flaming longsword (4157.5) --> 3281 gp - 4157 gp 5 sp = -876 gp 5 sp
- Trevor +1 longsword (1157.5) --> 3281 gp - 1157 gp 5 sp = 2123 gp 5 sp
- Ragnok --> 3281 gp
- Verdis --> 3281 gp

Bye
Thanee

 

[Leif]

Here's another one (almost the same as the first) for when we only have a single +1 longsword (in that case, Kurt will get the flaming longsword; longsword is the favored weapon of Heironeous, after all ).
Bye
Thanee

I object to Trevor 'paying' for his +1 longsword. It was given to him by another party member, so the 'cost' for it had already been 'paid' to the party. And, at any rate, this was done long ago, during a previous treasure distribution, so the account should have been settled then!

 

[Thanee]

I object to Trevor 'paying' for his +1 longsword. It was given to him by another party member, so the 'cost' for it had already been 'paid' to the party.

Actually, no. The cost has been paid by Coraine, as he had bought this sword himself.

As you can see above, that very same value is added to Coraine's share for giving his old sword into the party pool. If Trevor wouldn't 'pay' for its ownership, then Coraine could essentially not get the value for it, and so Coraine would then effectively pay for Trevor's sword.

Does that sound fair to you?

And, at any rate, this was done long ago, during a previous treasure distribution, so the account should have been settled then!

There has been no actual distribution of ownership, just distribution of use, because it makes little sense to have a magic sword rest in Coraine's backpack while he uses a better one we just found.

But as I said, this is just a proposal, if anyone has a better idea, go ahead.

We can also just hand out the treasure to whoever can use it and not distribute the gold at all, but rather use it to buy items for those who have not received much yet. That would work equally well, but with more hassle, because everything that is bought has to be decided as a group.

Bye
Thanee