Rhun's OLD Greyhawk ALPHA OOC Thread (ToEE) -CLOSED

[Leif]

All I know is this: Trevor is tired of getting the snot beat out of him every single fight. I know we need more rogue abilities, but I'm still awfully tempted to take 3rd level fighter first. Thoughts, anyone?

 

[Legildur]

All I know is this: Trevor is tired of getting the snot beat out of him every single fight. I know we need more rogue abilities, but I'm still awfully tempted to take 3rd level fighter first. Thoughts, anyone?

I hate to say it, but some of Trevor's tactical choices could have been better. 3.5e doesn't reward the bold that often. Trevor would fight much better in partnership with someone like Dara and maximising his opportunities for sneak attack damage.

The 3rd level of Rogue grants you +1 to Will and Fort saves, an extra d6 on the sneak attack damage, and the +1 Trap Sense, aside from the bucket load of skill points.

The fighter level gets you +1 Ref/Will and an extra 2 hps on avg. Both classes grant +1 BAB.

I reckon that at this point (with Ragnok and Coraine already in the front line, and then Kurt, Dara and Trevor in the 2nd line, that more combat prowess is not strickly needed in the 2nd line. That is, I reckon a level of Rogue.

Any thoughts towards turning Trevor into an archer?

 

[Thanee]

Yeah, maybe that was a tougher fight than anticipated, but we were in a crappy tactical position. If we'd been able to block them in the corridors, we'd have been right. But with being surrounded and flanked (through failing to pull back to a single position), the numbers against us began to add up.

They were quite a few... so the result isn't entirely unexpected. I think we did pretty well, considering the odds.

Our other issue is the lack of area of effect firepower. Kurt is going to have to start stacking his 2nd level spell slots with Sound Bursts in order to wear them down a bit as they close.

Next level, we'd normally start getting access to Fireball.

Dara is "only" one level behind a full Sorcerer (she will level up as Sorcerer pretty much exclusively now... maaaybe, not sure yet, go into Eldritch Knight, which would mean the "loss" of another spell level).

But she will reach 3rd level spells at 7th level only, since she is 2 levels behind a single class Wizard.

At least, she will get access to 2nd level spells soon.

I don't know if warlocks get some AoE abilities or not. I hope so!!

Not that early, IIRC.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Leif]

I hate to say it, but some of Trevor's tactical choices could have been better. 3.5e doesn't reward the bold that often. Trevor would fight much better in partnership with someone like Dara and maximising his opportunities for sneak attack damage.
The 3rd level of Rogue grants you +1 to Will and Fort saves, an extra d6 on the sneak attack damage, and the +1 Trap Sense, aside from the bucket load of skill points.
The fighter level gets you +1 Ref/Will and an extra 2 hps on avg. Both classes grant +1 BAB.
I reckon that at this point (with Ragnok and Coraine already in the front line, and then Kurt, Dara and Trevor in the 2nd line, that more combat prowess is not strickly needed in the 2nd line. That is, I reckon a level of Rogue.
Any thoughts towards turning Trevor into an archer?

Thanks for the observations and advice. Yes, you're absolutely right, too. Trevor thought, at first, that his limited fighter training would make more of a difference, but he sees now that it didn't do him as much good as he had hoped. Your advice is very good, and I think that a level of rogue would probably help the party more. Now, if I can just remember that when it's time to level up again!

Hadn't actually thought about the archer thing, but he does have the proficiencies for it already. Think that would be good?

 

[Thanee]

Think that would be good?

Not really.

Bye
Thanee

 

[s@squ@tch]

IMO, the main issue with that encounter was the sheer number of combatants -- as well as their hp's, which prevented them from falling after one blow most of the time.

I think Ragnok is the only one in the party with the Cleave feat, and he was tied up with the leader for the majority of the encounter.

At the end of the day, AOE would have been helpful, but so would have been a better defensible room.

In other news, is this treasure list accurate? I noticed that Coraine has no potions whatsoever, so it might be wise for us, as a group, to divy up the small items such as potions and scrolls.

Loot post

 

[Leif]

Did someone say Treasure Split? Trevor is all for that! And, never fear, Thanee, I shall suppress my urge for bloodletting and continue my progression as a rogue. *sigh* After all, that's what you guys let me join the game for!

 

[Thanee]

Archer just doesn't work well for a Rogue... that's all. Especially not, if you havn't got all the important Archery feats.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Legildur]

Archer just doesn't work well for a Rogue...

Except for staying out of melee trouble, and getting the drop on the enemy (with sneak attack damage) when you are sneaking around....

 

[Leif]

Yes, both Thanee and Legildur have good points. If Trevor was to become an archer, he would basically be trying to use the bow for sneak attacks. But, actually, he could do that much right now, since he already has the proficiencies and the sneak attack abilities necessary.