Sage... Dragon... Advice... what?

[Capellan]

Instead of saying 'Sage', you could say 'He Who Doesn't Bother To Crack a Book Before Speaking'.

And hasn't since 2nd Edition (possibly earlier, but I wasn't reading Dragon before then).

I still remember the day I stopped reading the column: it was right around the point where someone asked a question about ray of enfeeblement and 'He Who Is Too Cool To Read the PHB' gave a response that directly contradicted the text of the spell description itself

 

[Nightfall]

Out of curiosity... what exactly does "duly appointed" mean in this case?

-Hyp.

Means I stole the job when no one else was looking and said I got it through divine right.

It means:

The Pimp Daddy of the Scarred Lands and d20 stuff. *hums "Big Pimping" by Jay-z*

Yep! That too! Thanks Dark.

 

[dcollins]

Well... no, I don't agree. It's almost like he's saying "Yes, I know they called it 'two-handed', but ignore that. On the table, where it says 'two-handed', substitute 'large'. Anywhere else in any of the books where it says 'two-handed', read it literally, rather than as a defined term."

Not to pick nits, but that sure looks like 3.0 then.

 

[Ottergame]

Does it ever state explictly in the rules that a one handed weapon weilding in two hands ISN'T going to get the bonus of a two handed weapon?

The sage's rule makes sense to me, I'd use it. Or maybe I am the only person here who doesn't give a flaming funk.

 

[Flyspeck23]

Does it ever state explictly in the rules that a one handed weapon weilding in two hands ISN'T going to get the bonus of a two handed weapon?

The sage's rule makes sense to me, I'd use it. Or maybe I am the only person here who doesn't give a flaming funk.

"Two-handed" is a quality of the weapon, as is "light". Or could you change a one-handed weapon into a light weapon by holding it just with three fingers?
A light weapon is always at a disadvantage in a disarm attemp, even if wielded in two hands. A one-handed weapon is neither bane nor boon in this case, and again: even if wielded in two hands.

SRD:

The wielder of a two-handed weapon on a disarm attempt gets a +4 bonus on this roll, and the wielder of a light weapon takes a –4 penalty.

The rule only talks about "weapon quality" here, not about "modes of operation".

Granted, the fact that you're using a one-handed weapon in two hands might help you against disarm attemps. I might give a +2 or even a +4 bonus IMC, or I might not (considering that the weapon wasn't made to be wielded with two hands...). Anyway, we're rapidly approaching house rules here

 

[Joshua Randall]

So, Hyp. et al, what do you think of the Sage's table comparing wielder size to weapon size and indicating whether the weapon is light, one-handed, or two-handed? Is it correct? If not, why not?

 

[kreynolds]

I think the Sage's ruling makes sense. Granted, it makes the game less idiot-proof, but I don't consort with idiots, so...

 

[brendan candries]

pfff

rules lawyering vs common sense.

no matter how the rules are written, I always assumed that a longsword used with both hands got the benefits of 2-handed-weapon fighting. as someone pointed out, it's not the mass of the weapon but rather the fact that you use it with both hands that results in a higher str bonus and a bonus for/vs disarm attempts etc.

so yeah, I support the sage in this one.

 

[silentspace]

I've always wondered.. where do you put your hands when you grip a one-handed weapon with two hands? A hafted weapon I can sort of see. But what about a longsword?

 

[Nail]

One over the other, of course.

IYKWIM,AITYD