She-Hulk: Attorney at Law trailer

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And plenty of women agree with me on this.

It's odd but all of the women that I know have said that's their favorite bit when she basically mansplains to him what it's like to be a woman.

TBH, your reasoning sounds like someone telling me after I've told them my issues "Everyone's got problems"

EDIT: Bruce has come to terms with his losses, even the most recent being Tony, acknowledge by the look of sadness and missing he expresses when talking about the bar. There's really no need for Jen to bring it all up again.

 

[Staffan]

No I didn't miss it, it's just annoyances like that don't compare to loved ones dying horribly, or being hunted by the military, or all the carnage of innocent folks he's seen, or being forced to be a Gladitator, having your body hijacked by a walking disaster for years, having his are maimed by Thanos's glove, and so much more. Idiots cat calling you and getting your period doesn't compare to that. I'm not a fan of cat calling, periods sound like they suck, but comparing it to a walking tragedy like the Hulk is just narrassistic (and hypocritical given how she talks about Captain America).

But notably, when Bruce was exposed to those aggressions, he would usually hulk out. Pre-Hulk Bruce did not have much experience controlling his rage, because he rarely felt any. And once he turned green, it took him a good long while to master it and integrate his personalities.

Jen's a woman who has been exposed to aggression all her life and learned to deal with it before her encounter with gamma. So she had an enormous head start on Bruce.

 

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Wait, this is the same Bruce that grew up with an abusive father. Right? This is the Bruce that had no experience with rage prior to the gamma radiation exposure?

 

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But notably, when Bruce was exposed to those aggressions, he would usually hulk out. Pre-Hulk Bruce did not have much experience controlling his rage, because he rarely felt any. And once he turned green, it took him a good long while to master it and integrate his personalities.

yeah I’m not certain that Bruce not experiencing rage is an accurate characterisation. I’ll need to rewatch Norton to check but if I recall before the gamma accident he was a an obsessive, loner who supressed his emotions rather than not having them - and that was linked to childhood trauma and in particular his violent father (or is that Ang Lees version?).
It might be going beyond the MCU but it seems to me that its the suppression of his rage and lack of coping mechanisms that lead to the Banner/Hulk personality split - an issue that doesnt affect Jen-Hulk

 

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yeah I’m not certain that Bruce not experiencing rage is an accurate characterisation. I’ll need to rewatch Norton to check but if I recall before the gamma accident he was a an obsessive, loner who supressed his emotions rather than not having them - and that was linked to childhood trauma and in particular his violent father (or is that Ang Lees version?).
It might be going beyond the MCU but it seems to me that its the suppression of his rage and lack of coping mechanisms that lead to the Banner/Hulk personality split - an issue that doesnt affect Jen-Hulk

Wait, this is the same Bruce that grew up with an abusive father. Right? This is the Bruce that had no experience with rage prior to the gamma radiation exposure?

Yeah, the Daddy issues movie Ang lee hulk movie isn't canon to the MCU,so we have no real idea about his upbringing or life prior to the Norton Hulk movie other than the quick montage at the start.

 

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Wait, this is the same Bruce that grew up with an abusive father. Right? This is the Bruce that had no experience with rage prior to the gamma radiation exposure?

Good point . . . kinda . . .

Ang Lee's 2003 "The Hulk" starring Eric Bana is the one you are referencing, and it isn't considered part of the MCU canon. The next Hulk movie, 2008's "The Incredible Hulk" staring Edward Norton was a reboot, and is the first canon MCU Hulk appearance (retroactively, as the MCU started with "Iron Man" in the same year, 2008).

 

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Enjoyed episode 2 with all its little Easter eggs and things.

I like Jen’s dad.

 

[Aeson]

Jen's dad will always be Cousin Larry to me.

If you can't get enough Tatiana Maslany, she has a fiction podcast called Power Trip. After getting a new kidney off the black market she develops the power to command people. It's kinda funny with some good voice talents.

 

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Oh my goodness, you really missed the point of that scene, didn't you.

Bruce Banner, BEFORE he became the Hulk, had a pretty good life. Good job as a scientist, pretty girlfriend . . . . once the accident happened and he became the Hulk, then his life went to crap and he spent a long time mastering himself to overcome his rage.

Jennifer Walters BEFORE she became the She-Hulk . . . well, that's what her speech was all about. As a woman, and woman professional lawyer, she's had to master her rage all her life, which made her transition to Hulk-dom much easier than it was for her cousin.

Bruce, in that scene, reacted much as you did. He was to focused on his own experience to listen to Jenn's point-of-view, although he does come around.

This show treats the difficulties women go through in our society pretty damn well. It can be hard for some dudes to get over their privilege to see it though.

The biggest issue to me with that scene was, with the whole concept of "mansplaining" that is often brought up as an issue women go through; Jennifer effectively blows off the one person who actually has real experience, telling him what she needs to do because somehow she knows better even though she has ZERO experience with a radioactive gamma form living inside her. She commits the very act that men are often accused of doing.

The simple truth is, Jennifer doesn't have a clue what is going to happen to her. And frankly, she should be UTTERLY TERRIFIED. The one person on earth who has had the hulk inside them, was hunted for years, forced to live on the fringes of society, and has killed THOUSANDS of people. (make no mistake, when the Hulk rampaged in Age of Ultron, it was a massacre).

Now that doesn't mean she will have the same experience, but she treats it like a game, not the utterly serious thing that Bruce is trying to convey to her. Sure things go great on an island, she seems to have control. What happens when she is genuinely in fear of her life? Or she has a really nasty nightmare? Or hell just experiences a jump scare? She has NO IDEA how she will act with her new hulk self going forward, and seems to not understand that even one slip, just one slight loss of control....means someone dies. That should be a massive concern, but its played more for laughs than anything. While Bruce also doesn't know if her experience will be the same as his, at least he is approaching it from a position of caution....he respects the power, and so would rather be overly cautious and wrong than take it light hearted and now has to deal with Jennifer after she's killed someone or destroyed a building.

And that issue extends beyond Jennifer's character, its how the MCU has gradually changed its handling of the hulk. This is the guy that "put a bullet in his brain, and the other guy spat it out". Now he's this jovial almost comedic character. It could be argued that Bruce has earned that comedic play with his long road to control. He has tamed the monster, and now its more of a puppy. But Jennifer hasn't done that yet, she hasn't earned that lighthearted treatment of this grave power and responsibility. And that's why I think the scene just feels so wrong in many ways.