Ralts Bloodthorne
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On Medieval War:
I do owe an apology. I came off as a rude know-it-all. I just noticed that rereading it. I am one of those know-it-all people, but I didn't mean to be rude.
Anyway, the War of the Roses is an example of a civil war....
York, Salisbury and Warwick travelled towards London with three-thousand men at arms.
Typical English Longbowman Unit
In battle, the centuries (each with a hundred archers) would line up in formations of up to ten ranks deep. In front of each century would be an experienced (and very well paid) centenaur. A typical English army would have 50 or more centuries of archers available
(That's 5,000 bowmen)
There were never that many yeomen, some 10,000-20,000 were raised for each campaign.
(Never that many bowmen. They were expensive and highly trained, able to get off a dozen arrows in a minute. Each)
This was in 43 AD.....
A well planned invasion by 40,000 to 50,000 Roman soldiers took place in the summer of 43AD.
In BC Times.......
A 10,000 man expeditionary force, under the able Parmenio, one of Philip's most experienced combat commanders, was operating beyond the Hellaspont when Philip was assassinated.
//------//
337BC.
With the support of almost all Greece, Philip declared war on Persia. In the spring of 336 BC, Philip sent Attalus and Parmenion with the army of 10,000 men into Asia Minor to begin with the liberation of Greek coastal cities.
(Please note, this was an EXPEDITIONARY FORCE)
When the Thebans refused to surrender, there were to be no half-measures now; the city was wiped out of existence, he spared only the temples and the poet Pindar's house; 6,000 were killed and 30,000 survivors were sold into slavery for 440 Talents of silver. Greece might now be trusted to lie quiet for some time to come.
The place of concentration was Arisbe on the Hellespont, leaving Antipater, the general and friend of his father as his deputy in Europe with over 13,000 troops. Alexander himself commanded about 30,000 foot soldiers and over 5,000 cavalry, of whom nearly 14,000 were Macedonians and about 7,000 allies of the Greek League. This army had an excellent mixture of arms- the lightly armed Cretan and Macedonian archers, the Thracians, and the Agrianian javelin men; the striking force was the cavalry, and the core of the army was the infantry phalanx, 9,000 strong, armed with shields and five -and-one- half meter long spears, the sarises, and the 3,000 men of the royal troops, the hypaspists.
The army was accompanied by explorers, engineers, architects, scientists, court officials and historians.
The march on Rome began in 218 bc. Hannibal left New Carthage (now Cartagena), Spain, with an army of about 40,000, including cavalry and a considerable number of elephants carrying baggage and later used in battle.....There he almost completely annihilated a Roman army of more than 50,000 men under the consuls Lucius Aemilius Paulus, who was killed in the battle, and Gaius Terentius Varro (died after 200 bc), who escaped with the remnant. Carthaginian losses were fewer than 6000 men.
One of the Hun nomadic bands.....
Modok boasted of an army of 300,000.
China-
Han Emperor Liu Bang led 300,000 cavalry to attack the Huns in 200 BC; the Huns, with an army of 400 thousand, then encircled the precursor army led by first Han Emperor Liu Bang
176 BC. Wendi dispatched prime minister Guan Ying and an army of 85,000 and Huns fled across the river.
By 165 BC, Huns, with 140,000 cavalry, raided into China again, attacked Xiaoguan Pass, killed the Han official 'du-wei' (governing captain) of Beidi Commandary and burnt down an ex-Qin rotating palace (Palace Linguang), and attacked ex-Qin rotating Palace of Ganquan in the Yongzhou Commandary area.
With 200000 cavalry and 100000 soldiers, Han armies attcked the Huns deep into today's Outer Mongolia.
I can keep going.
But, I digress, let's look at some other things.....
We have a multitude of races. And Kingdoms of your average fantasy world are larger, more stable, and better populated than the normal medieval kingdom.
If King Azoun had faced a real army during the Horde wars, with the paltry number of people he had brought with him, the commander of the Horde (who would have have around 300,000 fighting troops, not to mention nearly a million support personell) would have slept in King Azoun's bed.
Well, luck divvying out the other problems bro's.....
I do owe an apology. I came off as a rude know-it-all. I just noticed that rereading it. I am one of those know-it-all people, but I didn't mean to be rude.
Anyway, the War of the Roses is an example of a civil war....
York, Salisbury and Warwick travelled towards London with three-thousand men at arms.
Typical English Longbowman Unit
In battle, the centuries (each with a hundred archers) would line up in formations of up to ten ranks deep. In front of each century would be an experienced (and very well paid) centenaur. A typical English army would have 50 or more centuries of archers available
(That's 5,000 bowmen)
There were never that many yeomen, some 10,000-20,000 were raised for each campaign.
(Never that many bowmen. They were expensive and highly trained, able to get off a dozen arrows in a minute. Each)
This was in 43 AD.....
A well planned invasion by 40,000 to 50,000 Roman soldiers took place in the summer of 43AD.
In BC Times.......
A 10,000 man expeditionary force, under the able Parmenio, one of Philip's most experienced combat commanders, was operating beyond the Hellaspont when Philip was assassinated.
//------//
337BC.
With the support of almost all Greece, Philip declared war on Persia. In the spring of 336 BC, Philip sent Attalus and Parmenion with the army of 10,000 men into Asia Minor to begin with the liberation of Greek coastal cities.
(Please note, this was an EXPEDITIONARY FORCE)
When the Thebans refused to surrender, there were to be no half-measures now; the city was wiped out of existence, he spared only the temples and the poet Pindar's house; 6,000 were killed and 30,000 survivors were sold into slavery for 440 Talents of silver. Greece might now be trusted to lie quiet for some time to come.
The place of concentration was Arisbe on the Hellespont, leaving Antipater, the general and friend of his father as his deputy in Europe with over 13,000 troops. Alexander himself commanded about 30,000 foot soldiers and over 5,000 cavalry, of whom nearly 14,000 were Macedonians and about 7,000 allies of the Greek League. This army had an excellent mixture of arms- the lightly armed Cretan and Macedonian archers, the Thracians, and the Agrianian javelin men; the striking force was the cavalry, and the core of the army was the infantry phalanx, 9,000 strong, armed with shields and five -and-one- half meter long spears, the sarises, and the 3,000 men of the royal troops, the hypaspists.
The army was accompanied by explorers, engineers, architects, scientists, court officials and historians.
The march on Rome began in 218 bc. Hannibal left New Carthage (now Cartagena), Spain, with an army of about 40,000, including cavalry and a considerable number of elephants carrying baggage and later used in battle.....There he almost completely annihilated a Roman army of more than 50,000 men under the consuls Lucius Aemilius Paulus, who was killed in the battle, and Gaius Terentius Varro (died after 200 bc), who escaped with the remnant. Carthaginian losses were fewer than 6000 men.
One of the Hun nomadic bands.....
Modok boasted of an army of 300,000.
China-
Han Emperor Liu Bang led 300,000 cavalry to attack the Huns in 200 BC; the Huns, with an army of 400 thousand, then encircled the precursor army led by first Han Emperor Liu Bang
176 BC. Wendi dispatched prime minister Guan Ying and an army of 85,000 and Huns fled across the river.
By 165 BC, Huns, with 140,000 cavalry, raided into China again, attacked Xiaoguan Pass, killed the Han official 'du-wei' (governing captain) of Beidi Commandary and burnt down an ex-Qin rotating palace (Palace Linguang), and attacked ex-Qin rotating Palace of Ganquan in the Yongzhou Commandary area.
With 200000 cavalry and 100000 soldiers, Han armies attcked the Huns deep into today's Outer Mongolia.
I can keep going.
But, I digress, let's look at some other things.....
We have a multitude of races. And Kingdoms of your average fantasy world are larger, more stable, and better populated than the normal medieval kingdom.
If King Azoun had faced a real army during the Horde wars, with the paltry number of people he had brought with him, the commander of the Horde (who would have have around 300,000 fighting troops, not to mention nearly a million support personell) would have slept in King Azoun's bed.
Well, luck divvying out the other problems bro's.....
