So you dislike 3e...Why post here?

[rounser]

It amuses me that people are making C64 and Atari analogies in a negative sense. In dance music, the sounds from old machines are returned to (through C64 sound chip emulators like QuadraSID, or putting samples through an Amiga's crunchy 8 bit distortion) because they have a dirt and rawness to them that "stronger, faster, better!" new technology has abandoned in the rush to advance. Heck, Norman Cook (Fatboy Slim) sequences on an Atari still.

IMO, the same kind of principle applies strongly to D&D, reversing the analogy from the negative connotations that Lisa and Wizardru were attempting to allude to.

 

[diaglo]

After all, if you want to play with something that's obsolete, who am I to argue?

i could say the same for 3ed. but i too will refrain. i mean 4ed is already out. HackMaster that is.

 

[Piratecat]

Ahh, but Fuerte is so superoir to Hass. All the Hass trees should be bulldozed into the ground! And anyone who thinks otherwise is an avotard!

This is the funniest thing I've ever heard you say.

 

[WizarDru]

It amuses me that people are making C64 and Atari analogies in a negative sense. In dance music, the sounds from old machines are returned to (through C64 sound chip emulators like QuadraSID, or putting samples through an Amiga's crunchy 8 bit distortion) because they have a dirt and rawness to them that "stronger, faster, better!" new technology has abandoned in the rush to advance. Heck, Norman Cook (Fatboy Slim) sequences on an Atari still.

Not an Atari 2600, he doesn't. You misunderstand me, I think. My point was that whenever I remember fondly those experiences and try to recreate them, it becomes apparent that I, personally, don't enjoy them as much now as I did then, and that part of that is nostalgia, and the fact that I've changed and the technology has moved on. Combat has not gotten worse, or is any different from when I experienced it. Neither is pong. But in the world of Warcraft 3, Unreal Tournament 2K3 and even Atomica, for pity's sake, Pong just ain't cutting it for me, any more.

The same applies, in a different thread, to 1st edition, for me, personally. It's not a bad system...but I've become used to RPGs with skills, for example, and consistent mechanics. I left 1e for GURPS many years ago because I liked the balance and verisimilitude. I enjoyed the freedom of options. I returned to 3E for that same reason. 1e has not changed, I have. What I want from a game, 1e no longer can provide. Some people still enjoy the system as it was, or with their particular selection of house rules. I'm glad for that. I welcome them here to provide their perspective on things. I just would like all of them (as opposed to almost all of them, I should point out) to be a little less confrontative about their gaming choice. Coming in the door and telling me my game of choice makes me a '3tard' is just plain rude, IMHO, regardless of how tongue-in-cheek the reference was intended.

 

[Sulimo]

I welcome them here to provide their perspective on things. I just would like all of them (as opposed to almost all of them, I should point out) to be a little less confrontative about their gaming choice. Coming in the door and telling me my game of choice makes me a '3tard' is just plain rude, IMHO, regardless of how tongue-in-cheek the reference was intended.

And by the same token I'd rather not see people who prefer another system, but are here for whatever reason (assuming its not just to provoke major system wars), not get beaten to death by 3e adherents. Not that I've really seen it happen...I certainly havent been beaten for my repeated use of Rolemaster game yet.

 

[bloodymage]

This is the funniest thing I've ever heard you say.

Yeah, quite frequently I have a hard time convincing people that I actually have a sense of humor. Droll, I think is the proper term (See?)

Oh, and thank you.

 

[bloodymage]

I must know...

Mark, check your Private Messages.

 

[Ace]

Some of us like other systems better, but that in no way is to disparage D&D. Everyone has favorites.

Absolutely! Plus the people here are great and the conversations can give enough material for use with any game

For the record I prefer other games to 3e but that doesn't mean I "dis' 3e in any way.

Besides ENWorld is FUN and thats what counts

 

[Mark]

Mark, check your Private Messages.

Got it. Stop using the "Eye-Rolly" smiley. It's frightening me and making me think you dislike my system of choice...

 

[bloodymage]

Stop using the "Eye-Rolly" smiley.

That's not an "Eye-Rolly" smiley. That's a "Droll" smiley!