Some random SG-1 questions [Plus a Couple NEW Ones]

[DM_Matt]

Ok, here are some random SG-1 questions I was wondering about...

1. When Tanath escaped from the Tok'ra base, did he kill Freya/(forgot snake's name)?
2. What ever happened to Osiris after escaping earth?
3. Why doesn't the SGC use more Go'a'uld technology beyond Zats? I suppose staff weapons are not really worth it, but one would think that they would have been able to get some hand devices, personal defense field generators, or more than that one Bazooka-Style Staff Weapon that Teal'c sometimes uses.
4. Is it just me, or was it really dumb to take out the space-Nazis that were going to trade with right before they gave them the technology rather than right after?

 

[Green Knight]

1. When Tanath escaped from the Tok'ra base, did he kill Freya/(forgot snake's name)?

Nope. She's still alive, though we've never seen her, again.

2. What ever happened to Osiris after escaping earth?

Osiris was approached by Zipacna and convinced to enter into the service of Anubis. Osiris, having no other prospects, accepted.

3. Why doesn't the SGC use more Go'a'uld technology beyond Zats? I suppose staff weapons are not really worth it, but one would think that they would have been able to get some hand devices, personal defense field generators, or more than that one Bazooka-Style Staff Weapon that Teal'c sometimes uses.

The ribbon devices require one to have naquadah in the bloodstream, which means that only Major Carter can use them. As for the personal defence field, I don't think they've ever gotten their hands on one. And if they have, then that too might also require naquedah in the bloodstream. They've never shown them in the possession of one, so who knows.

4. Is it just me, or was it really dumb to take out the space-Nazis that were going to trade with right before they gave them the technology rather than right after?

Space Nazis? Not sure who you're talking about. I assume you're talking about the guys who were led by Rene Auberjonois (Odo from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine). If so, then the situation with that is that if they had gotten the technology, then they would've had to have given Heavy Water back in the deal. So they would've helped them out against these other folks. So if they're not gonna give them the Heavy Water, why not help take them down? Not like they're gonna get the technology, anyway, unless they want to side with them and arm them.

 

[Skade]

3. At least in the case of the hand devices, the bearer must contain Goa'uld markers in their chromosones, like Sam does. She has on two occassions I belive used a hand device briefly, but I belive that like the sarcophagi, the device has an addictive, and dehumanizing side effect. This is also why the Tokrah are reluctant to use a great deal of Goa'uld technology on their persons.

As to the larger, more resouce intensive devices it may have to do with a lack of naqueta, which they are only now able to relaibly mine. This is also compl;icated by an inablilty to axactly replicate much of the technology, which must instead be copied by significantly lower human technology. So the originals are kept safely in labs for reverse engineering, not readily available to the SG teams.

This is, of course, just supposition.

 

[Heretic Apostate]

4. Is it just me, or was it really dumb to take out the space-Nazis that were going to trade with right before they gave them the technology rather than right after?

If I recall correctly, the "space-Nazis" were the cloners (?) who were taking on the "breeders," and losing badly. The SG1 team was upset that they had been used to man remote-controlled warplanes against what they had been told were similar enemy warplanes (i.e., no people in the planes).

This is the one where O'Neil walked through the gate, had the iris closed, and then we hear a thump as something rematerialized on the iris, right?

 

[Mercule]

Osiris was approached by Zipacna and convinced to enter into the service of Anubis. Osiris, having no other prospects, accepted.

Having missed a season and a half, I'm totally unfamiliar with Osiris as a Goa'uld. In mythology, he was extremely benevolent, though. What is he like in SG-1? For that matter, what have we seen of Isis and/or Horus, the other two "big good guys" in Egyptian myths?

 

[Brisk-sg]

Having missed a season and a half, I'm totally unfamiliar with Osiris as a Goa'uld. In mythology, he was extremely benevolent, though. What is he like in SG-1? For that matter, what have we seen of Isis and/or Horus, the other two "big good guys" in Egyptian myths?

He is now a she. Osiris was imprisoned in a stasis jar on earth along with another goa'uld as a form of punishment by the system lords when they ruled ancient earth.

Some old comrades of Daniel find are involved in the study of the jars. Osiris escapes into an old girlfriend of Daniel's, taking her as its host. It knows the location of an ancient goa'uld vessel in the mid-east and is able to escape in it.

I know she is in other episodes, but I have not seen them.

 

[DM_Matt]

Space Nazis? Not sure who you're talking about. I assume you're talking about the guys who were led by Rene Auberjonois (Odo from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine). If so, then the situation with that is that if they had gotten the technology, then they would've had to have given Heavy Water back in the deal. So they would've helped them out against these other folks. So if they're not gonna give them the Heavy Water, why not help take them down? Not like they're gonna get the technology, anyway, unless they want to side with them and arm them.

Yup, that was the situation. They had already given them a few hours of heavy water, and the cloners had already prepared their data crystals to move, apparently after the next small shipment. Letting the bad guys last a couple hours longer in a war that lasted decades seems to be a small price to pay for 100 years of technology. Besides, they could have done something to contaminate the heavy water or render it otherwise ineffective, or even taken the crystals through the gate, THEN attacked either themselves or by sending a big bomb through. Its not like the baddies were all that tough.

 

[Green Knight]

Having missed a season and a half, I'm totally unfamiliar with Osiris as a Goa'uld. In mythology, he was extremely benevolent, though. What is he like in SG-1? For that matter, what have we seen of Isis and/or Horus, the other two "big good guys" in Egyptian myths?

Isis was in the same episode, in a stasis jar just like Osiris. However, her stasis jar broke and she died. As for the rest, Brisk-sg already summed up how Osiris came back into play.

I know she is in other episodes, but I have not seen them.

If I remember right, the episodes are as follows.

- Osiris inhabits the body of Daniel's old girlfriend, Sara.
- Osiris appears in a two-parter in which Anubis is accepted back into the System Lords. Lord Zipacna, now serving Anubis, approaches Osiris, because Anubis wants him/her to be his representative at the System Lord meeting. During that meeting, Daniel tries to kidnap Osiris but fails.
- Osiris is in command of one of Anubis' ships and threatens an Asgard protected world, when Thor arrives in his ship. Osiris' ship, equipped with better shielding, destroys the Asgardian ship and they capture Thor. Later on in the ep, Osiris nearly gets her hands on a Proto-Asgardian (I forgot what they were called). The previous evolutionary type of the Asgardians (Like Homo Erectus) back from when the Asgard could reproduce the way humans do (They were also a lot taller). The Asgard need that body to try to find a way to cure their cloning disease, and be able to reproduce, again.

And I think that's it. As for Horus, isn't he Heru'ur? You gotta pay a bit of attention with Stargate, as they don't always go for the most obvious translation of the names (Like calling that one guy Seth rather than Set).

 

[Rackhir]

3. Why doesn't the SGC use more Go'a'uld technology beyond Zats? I suppose staff weapons are not really worth it, but one would think that they would have been able to get some hand devices, personal defense field generators, or more than that one Bazooka-Style Staff Weapon that Teal'c sometimes uses.

Quite frankly, aside from things like the Ships/death gliders and semi artifacts like the Sarcophagus (healing coffins), most of the Go'a'uld technology doesn't seem to be that good.

Conventional assault rifles and other current military technology are clearly vastly more effective than what the Go'a'uld use. O'Neil put it best in the episode where there was a Ja'fa who was gathering up rebel Ja'fa and wanted help from the SGC. He said holding up a staff weapon "This is a weapon for terrifying your enemy!" and then held up a P90 and said "THIS is a weapon for killing him!". The Go'a'uld don't seem to have anything equivalent to artillery or armored vehicles, which would get them slaughered against the US military. Even their Deathgliders are relatively simple to bring down with only Stinger type SAMs, the simplist and least effective SAMs. The Motherships could fill the role of artillery, but they are the one thing that the SGC can't equal yet...

Also there has been a distinct tendency to have them "loose") fairly promptly substantial pieces of technology (like the Mothership they took. Or to "discover" some sort of drawback or limitation to the Go'a'uld tech, like the Sarcophagus driving people insane or needing Go'a'uld DNA markers to use the Hand Device which Major Carter is only barely able to use (though she hasn't exactly been practicing).

 

[DM_Matt]

Quite frankly, aside from things like the Ships/death gliders and semi artifacts like the Sarcophagus (healing coffins), most of the Go'a'uld technology doesn't seem to be that good.

Conventional assault rifles and other current military technology are clearly vastly more effective than what the Go'a'uld use. O'Neil put it best in the episode where there was a Ja'fa who was gathering up rebel Ja'fa and wanted help from the SGC. He said holding up a staff weapon "This is a weapon for terrifying your enemy!" and then held up a P90 and said "THIS is a weapon for killing him!". The Go'a'uld don't seem to have anything equivalent to artillery or armored vehicles, which would get them slaughered against the US military. Even their Deathgliders are relatively simple to bring down with only Stinger type SAMs, the simplist and least effective SAMs. The Motherships could fill the role of artillery, but they are the one thing that the SGC can't equal yet...

Also there has been a distinct tendency to have them "loose") fairly promptly substantial pieces of technology (like the Mothership they took. Or to "discover" some sort of drawback or limitation to the Go'a'uld tech, like the Sarcophagus driving people insane or needing Go'a'uld DNA markers to use the Hand Device which Major Carter is only barely able to use (though she hasn't exactly been practicing).

The Go'a'uld COULD develop tanks and artillery and such. They just choose not to because its the motherships that matter...besides those, all they really need are Ja'fa to bully the populace. Thats why the Tok'ra don't bother developing anytinhg to defend rthemselves beucase they don't have motherships.