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Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off giants and their kin


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Shade

Monster Junkie
Updated.

Skills: 5 at 24 ranks
Storm giants have Climb, Concentration, Craft (any one), Intimidate, Jump, Listen, Perform (sing), Sense Motive, Spot

Feats: 8 (1 can be epic)
Storm giants have Awesome Blow, Cleave, Combat Reflexes, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Sunder, Iron Will, Power Attack
 


Shade

Monster Junkie
Sure.

Since it gets good Will saves as an undead, I could see dropping Iron Will for the more thematically releveant Lightning Reflexes, or even Epic Reflexes. What do you think?
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
We could drop Imp Sunder or Ability Focus as well and go with both Lightning and Epic Reflexes. Its Ref save could use some help.
 


Shade

Monster Junkie
What is the benefit of Ability Focus (dark jolt)? The only save is to remove the negative level later, and that hardly seems worth the cost of a feat. :confused:
 



Shade

Monster Junkie
If we drop Imp. Bull Rush, we lose Awesome Blow as well. So, add an additional feat to replace it, or jettison something other than IBR?
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Arrgh, forgot the prereq there. Well, anyway, I think the feat list it has now looks fine. Let's stick with that.
 



demiurge1138

Inventor of Super-Toast
I'm not the world's biggest fan of Awesome Blow, but I can let it go. Let's work on the lessers.

I'm also not getting a very undead vibe from these, physical description wise.
 


freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
That all sounds reasonable for the lessers, though I think black lightning still has some purpose of bypassing electricity resistance.
 


freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Ack, yes, you're right, I thought for some reason you were referring to the spawn ability. :confused: I must be tired, yeah, that's it!
 

Shade

Monster Junkie
Updated.

For the lessers, reduce shock to 1d6 damage and dark jolt to 3d6?

We need to drop 2 more feats (I already dropped Awesome Blow and Epic Reflexes, since it won't meet the prereqs): Cleave, Combat Reflexes, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Sunder, Lightning Reflexes, Power Attack

Reduce damage reduction to 10/magic?
 

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