D&D (2024) Spellfire Sorceror what did you score it Green/Yellow/Red?

[Paul Farquhar]

I read the first novel. Then buried it at the crossroads with a stake through it's dust jacket. Nevertheless, I don't have a problem with the concept, and sorcerer works fine with it. I would have done it slightly differently, by borrowing the warlock's Eldritch Blast, and in Pathfinder I would have made it a kineticist. But this version seems to be okay mechanically, and frankly I don't think it's likely to ever crop up.

 

[pukunui]

A supernatural gift would make sense.

I went back and looked at the old playtest document. The initial supernatural gift is called Silver Fire, and it lets you use an action to conjure spellfire. It emits light, and while active, you are resistant to cold and can breathe underwater.

If you have the Silver Fire gift, you can then get any of the following: Crown of Fire, Maelstrom of Fire, Magical Absorption, Restore Dead Magic, Shield of the Mind, Spellfire Blast, Spellfire Healing, or Spellfire Flight. There's also Drain Magic, which requires you to have both the Silver Fire gift and one of the other gifts that recharges on a short rest (e.g. Spellfire Healing).

I think it was being considered for inclusion in the SCAG but didn't make the cut.

 

[Distracted DM]

This is Laeral Silverhand's version of Spellfire:



Laeral is a demigod archmage, so that's like peak spellfire ability. I wouldn't expect a PC with spellfire to be able to do all that until they were 20th level or thereabouts. But ultimately that's what I'd prefer to what's in the UA.

The other thing, though, is that the OG Spellfire wielder, Shandril, isn't a magic-user. She can use spellfire but she can't cast spells. So as much as spellfire via sorcerer makes some sense, it would also be nice if they did it via feat(s) (as much as I dislike feat chains) or supernatural gifts (like they experimented with years ago)!

I am biased, though. Spellfire may have been the first FR novel I read, so I have major nostalgia for it. I kind of liked how they did it in 5e as a class-less paragon path or whatever it was. Spellscarred? That was an interesting way to do it.

I'm not familiar with Spellfire, but this all seems pretty tame for a "demigod archmage?"

 

[Henadic Theologian]

I read the first novel. Then buried it at the crossroads with a stake through it's dust jacket. Nevertheless, I don't have a problem with the concept, and sorcerer works fine with it. I would have done it slightly differently, by borrowing the warlock's Eldritch Blast, and in Pathfinder I would have made it a kineticist. But this version seems to be okay mechanically, and frankly I don't think it's likely to ever crop up.

You buried a book at a crossroads with a stake through it's heart?!?! It's a D&D novel, not the Necromaticon or the Satanic Bible.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

You buried a book at a crossroads with a stake through it's heart?!?! It's a D&D novel, not the Necromaticon or the Satanic Bible.

Oh, I have them on my bookshelf (along with The Beginners Guide to Hyperbolae). Spellfire is far worse.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

I'm not familiar with Spellfire, but this all seems pretty tame for a "demigod archmage?"

Your confusing Blue Fire for Spellfire.

Your not an archmage with Spellfire, the first Spellfire weilder we see is a 16 year old girl who works at tavern before she goes on her adventure. No fancy book learning needed.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Oh, I have them on my bookshelf (along with The Beginners Guide to Hyperbolae). Spellfire is far worse.

I love that novel, so it's your loss.

 

[Distracted DM]

Your confusing Blue Fire for Spellfire.

Your not an archmage with Spellfire, the first Spellfire weilder we see is a 16 year old girl who works at tavern before she goes on her adventure. No fancy book learning needed.

I'm just going off the quoted feature provided. Is it not Spellfire?

 

[pukunui]

I'm not familiar with Spellfire, but this all seems pretty tame for a "demigod archmage?"

That's just the Spellfire action from her stat block. There's a lot more she can do. She's a 19th level wizard who can cast all of her 1st and 2nd level spells at will. She also has magical silver hair with which she can damage and paralyze people. She's resistant to fire, immune to poison/poisoned, and has truesight. She also has a flame tongue sword and a robe of the archmagi. She's CR 17.

The 5e version of Laeral has been "weakened by Mystra’s death, rebirth, and withdrawal from the world." She was much more powerful in older editions.

 

[Distracted DM]

That's just the Spellfire action from her stat block. There's a lot more she can do. She's a 19th level wizard who can cast all of her 1st and 2nd level spells at will. She also has magical silver hair with which she can damage and paralyze people. She's resistant to fire, immune to poison/poisoned, and has truesight. She also has a flame tongue sword and a robe of the archmagi. She's CR 17.

The 5e version of Laeral is a version "weakened by Mystra’s death, rebirth, and withdrawal from the world". She was much more powerful in older editions.

Oh ok so the Spellfire stuff is just a little extra add-on. I wondered why she would ever use that aoe cone of flame when she must have a bunch of other, better options