Spring Attack X Reach Wepon

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If a caracter has a spike chain (or any other wepon with reach) and he is attacked by another caracter using the spring attack ability (move 20ft, attack, move 20ft again), can the spiked chain guy make an attack of oportunite because the other caracter enters his threat area??
 

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To add to Geoff's answer:

No,

because Spring Attack simply does not provoke AoOs from the person attacked.

Others would get AoOs if applicable, but only when the attacker leaves a threatened area...not when he/she enters.
 
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As soeone pointed out with Spring Attack your opponent does not get an AOO for movement, but everyone else does. Don't forget that the prerequisite for Spring Attack is mobility so to all other suckers trying to attack you due to any AOO you get a +4 AC bonus.
 

Normal Guys without spring attack

Same example, but now the attacker doesn´t have spring attack feat.
This guy comes to attack another one that has and know how to use a spiked chain (10 ft reach).

So, does the spiked chain guy get an AoO ??
 


More detailed answer:

If you have a weapon that threatens both 10' away AND 5' away (a spiked chain, or if you're Large size or bigger with extended reach), anyone attempting to close with you will take an AoO, unless they started their turn 10' away from you (i.e., you attacked them last turn) and only took a 5' step inwards. A 5' step never draws an AoO if it's the only movement of the turn.

You'll get an AoO since they left a threatened square (10' away) and entered another threatened square (5' away). The AoO takes place in the destination square unless you have the Stand Still psionic Feat, in which case it takes place in the first square. The same applies if they are trying to run away from you; as long as both squares are threatened you can take an AoO.

This is a fundamental weakness of polearms with reach (a Glaive, for example); since they don't threaten adjacent squares, you won't get an AoO as someone closes with you, since they won't be moving between two threatened squares unless they're going perpendicular to you (a stupid move).

Edit: forgot to mention that this only works if they don't have Spring Attack, which prevents the target from taking movement AoOs.
 
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Spatzimaus said:
More detailed answer:

This is a fundamental weakness of polearms with reach (a Glaive, for example); since they don't threaten adjacent squares, you won't get an AoO as someone closes with you, since they won't be moving between two threatened squares unless they're going perpendicular to you (a stupid move).

I used to think that that too Spatzimaus, but in reality the AOO comes from leaving the first threatened square, it doesn't matter if you enter another threatened square or not.

For example, I'm next to a guy with a long sword. If I move 30 feet back, and take a swing at some other guy, I provoke an AOO from the first guy. I left a threatened square, and so got nailed.

All reach weapons have that advantage, I found that out a couple of months ago from people on this board.
 

Spatzimaus said:
This is a fundamental weakness of polearms with reach (a Glaive, for example); since they don't threaten adjacent squares, you won't get an AoO as someone closes with you, since they won't be moving between two threatened squares unless they're going perpendicular to you (a stupid move).

I wanted to back up Stalker, and reiterate that this is mistaken. The situation you describe is where the "or out of a threatened area" clause kicks in as far as AOOs are concerned (PH p. 122).
 

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